Wednesday, August 9, 2017

--Wally Middleton Thieves--------Fildebrandt said the rental is completely above-board and complies with the rules. Interim UCP caucus deputy leader Mike Ellis said in a brief statement his caucus is carefully reviewing the matter. “While it has been explained to be an approved LAO activity, we take fiscal responsibility seriously,” Ellis said. Although he said he’s done nothing wrong, Fildebrandt accused former Wildrose leader Brian Jean’s “backroom operators” of “personal smears” over the apartment on the day after he was critical of his former boss.---------Surely you jest Finance critic Derek Fildebrandt? You don't think it is an abuse of the public purse to take our money as the housing allowance and then get more money for the rental of the empty apartment? Give me a break. Just how dumb do you think taxpayers are? We naive but we have learned from the Redford's Sky Palace and the Duffy's major bills. Now get with the program. The fiscally conservative program that you obviously know nothing about.




And so the righteous are brought down. The Fildebrandt of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation has the gall to tell us that it is a waste of a good apartment to leave it empty. He's just being fiscally conservative by taking our housing allowance and then turning around and renting out the empty apartment for another sum of cash. It seems rather odd to me that an MLA who is so stridently against the major debt by the NDP is still willing to take our cash as a housing allowance as well as some other folks' cash for additional income.
Why-he tells us --this is perfectly legal. Hmm... so are ALL the MLAs renting out their apartments/ housing when they are out of town? If so don't you think that the NDP folks need to put an end to this lucrative use of public dollars to turn extra profit?
I would say that the Notley crew do the tightening of this loophole pronto. We would not like to see the UCP folks having to explain to the voters of Alberta that they are so fiscally conservative that they have even made a profit from the housing allowance we have given them--you can't get more fiscally conservative than to know how to milk the system to the limit.
Get going Notley crew and end this junk. Or are there NDP MLAs also renting out their digs to the public?
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http://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/finance-critic-derek-fildebrandt-rents-downtown-digs-on-airbnb-while-claiming-housing-allowance

Finance critic Derek Fildebrandt rents downtown digs on Airbnb while claiming housing allowance

Published on: August 9, 2017 | Last Updated: August 9, 2017 8:24 PM MDT
Derek Fildebrandt announces he will not be running for UCP leadership in Calgary on Tuesday August 8, 2017 outside the McDougall Centre.
United Conservative Party MLA Derek Fildebrandt says there's nothing wrong with him subletting his downtown Edmonton apartment while claiming thousands of dollars in rent from the public purse. LEAH HENNEL / POSTMEDIA
A United Conservative Party MLA says there’s nothing wrong with him subletting his downtown Edmonton apartment while claiming thousands of dollars in rent from the public purse.
Derek Fildebrandt, MLA for Strathmore-Brooks, advertises his downtown bachelor suite for rent online as “newly renovated, modernly furnished and very well-kept.”
“It has a sweeping view of the city and is in the thick of the action on Jasper Ave.,” the Airbnb listing says.
Between January and March, eight Airbnb renters reviewed the apartment. Over the same three months, Fildebrandt claimed $7,720 for accommodation in Edmonton.
Fildebrandt denies he’s double-dipping by renting out the same apartment for which he claims an allowance on the taxpayers’ dime.
“Find someone under 35 with a downtown apartment that doesn’t let their apartment if they’re gone half the year,” he told the Journal.
After all, he said, “it’s the 21st century.”
“It would be a waste … to have an apartment that sits empty half of the year and not let it out when I’m gone out of session,” he said.  
Fildebrandt, one of the UCP’s two finance critics, said he puts the extra cash toward rent, cleaning and maintenance.
“Some MLAs rent, some MLAs let a hotel room, some MLAs buy a place and put (their allowance) toward the mortgage,” he said, and there’s no difference between those arrangements.

Expense rules mum on sublets

Members of the Legislative Assembly from outside the capital region are entitled to a maximum of $23,160 in a fiscal year to own or lease a property in Edmonton, or $193 per night for a hotel while in the city on official business.
That cash can go toward accommodation expenses like rent, utilities and parking, but the rules explicitly state that MLAs are only entitled to the actual costs incurred.
Expenses are paid through the Legislative Assembly Office, overseen by the Speaker.
Alex McCuaig, Speaker Robert Wanner’s chief of staff, told the Journal there is no precedent around an Airbnb sublet, but said the system is set up with the intention that members claim actual expenses, not the maximum by default.
“The bottom line is, the member needs to be answerable for their practices and justify their expenses,” McCuaig said.
Fildebrandt said the rental is completely above-board and complies with the rules.
Interim UCP caucus deputy leader Mike Ellis said in a brief statement his caucus is carefully reviewing the matter.
“While it has been explained to be an approved LAO activity, we take fiscal responsibility seriously,” Ellis said.
Although he said he’s done nothing wrong, Fildebrandt accused former Wildrose leader Brian Jean’s “backroom operators” of “personal smears” over the apartment on the day after he was critical of his former boss.

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Julie Ali · 

I have to admit that I find this situation rather odd. Here we have Mr. Fildebrandt who I seem to recall was an avid defender of the public purse when he wasn't a politician as noted here:

http://www.derekfildebrandt.ca/about
Fildebrandt served as both the Alberta Director and National Research Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Federally, he fought to end the Liberal long-gun registry, scrap gold-plated MP pensions, and require First Nation Chiefs to publicly disclose their salaries to band members. In Alberta, he led the fight against the Redford government’s deficit budgets and abuse of taxpayers’ money.
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So he was all about "abuse of the taxpayers' money" before he got to be an MLA.
Now he is an MLA and he has a subsidy for housing that is rather plush in my opinion:

http://edmontonjournal.com/.../finance-critic-derek...
Members of the Legislative Assembly from outside the capital region are entitled to a maximum of $23,160 in a fiscal year to own or lease a property in Edmonton, or $193 per night for a hotel while in the city on official business.
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Not satisfied with the generous outlay of cash by taxpayers he parleys this allowance into a business venture where he makes a profitable sum of cash. He sublets this apartment to gain a nice income besides the public subsidy. This sure seems like double dipping to me. If there are no rules against this practice there sure as heck should be.

I encourage the NDP folks to take full advantage of this revelation of how fiscally unsound the Finance Critic for the UCP is and put in legislation stat to prevent the rental of any property that is financed by the housing allowance. While I sympathize with Mr. Fildebrandt's canny use of other peoples' money to make a profit I somehow don't think he should be doing this while telling us that it is a waste of housing. That is besides the point. He either gets the housing allowance or he gets the rent that someone else pays him. He should not be getting both the housing allowance and a rental income simultaneousl.

In my opinion, if the Finance Critic for the UCP is so bad at preventing the abuse of public monies, he should simply retire from politics and start a private business where he can use other peoples' money without such impediments to his ingenuity.
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Tricia Layden Rumbles · 

He could buy a house and use that allowance toward the mortgage - he can do what he wants with that property. It's the same, since the lease is in his name. Sorry, no biggie. And I would be willing I bet there are MANY mla's in all parties that do this.
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Tricia Layden Rumbles · 

The only alternative is to force them all to stay in hotels while they're in session... which is ridiculous and would cost more.
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Dallas Chr · 

Maybe the province should buy a condo building and just house them in there when they are in session.
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Dan Belisle · 

Dallas Chr Quonset hut by the ledge. They can all be roomies.
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Tricia Layden Rumbles · 

Dallas Chr maybe!! I'm sure they'd all love to be that close to each other (all parties) lol 😂
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Allan Paquet · 

So what you are saying is that if your company pays for your hotel room that it is ethical to rent the room to another and pocket the money?
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Torch Rankin · 

Wouldn't it be more putting the allowance towards a mortgage on an income property? The net result here is more in his pocket than he spends. He can rent it if it's empty, but then claiming payment again for rent from the government seems unethical.
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Kelly Wolfert · 

You are missing the point. He has a subsidy that he is profiting from. And that subsidy is provided by tax payers.
Those that rent out the house that the same funds go towards their mortgage would also be wrong.
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Mike Sloan · 

Dallas Chr That would likely save a lot of money
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Allan Paquet · 

He is pocketing money twice while attacking what he calls the" nanny state" what a piece of garbage.
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Julie Ali · 

Allan Paquet Yes. Exactly. Rather troubling to say the least. I am curious who leaked this information. If the Wildrose Party knew of this practice by the MLA and yet kept silent until he bad mouthed Mr. Jean then the party is similar to the politician in my opinion. In other words, this may be all above board and acceptable but it still doesn't seem appropriate practice by a public employee.

I think the regulations about the subsidy need to be made clear that it should not be used for this sort of business venture. Subletting an apartment for profit while also getting cash from the public purse is double dipping in my opinion.

But there you go. Politicians are inventive when it is not their own cash. This so called fiscally Conservative politician seems to be very adept at using other peoples' money to profit.
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Kris Singh · 

Sorry that would be the definition of double dipping. 1 - claiming the rent as an expense. 2 - collecting additional rent because it is unused. See Derek that's two in case you can't count. Two dips would result in a double dip by definition.
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Andy Conn · 

Math is hard for the alt-right
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Kris Singh · 

I really thought Seinfeld properly defined the double dip. Guess not.
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Lucia Iorio
EXACTLY
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Julie Ali · 

I have to agree with you that this sort of business set up stinks. It may not break any current laws or regulations but it still stinks.

Regulations need to be present to ensure that subletting of a property is prohibited when the MLA is getting paid by the public purse for housing. Double payments should be made improper by legislation.
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Jason Vaudrin
Leave him alone you bastards!!! Do you know how much it cost to fill those jerry cans😳😳😳😳
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Dustan McLean
This comment wins.
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Lucia Iorio
Lolololol
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Andrew Robert Francis · 

'Although he said he’s done nothing wrong, Fildebrandt accused former Wildrose leader Brian Jean’s “backroom operators” of “personal smears” over the apartment on the day after he was critical of his former boss.'

So much for the United right!
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Kelly Wolfert · 

Workin' the system.
Party politics aside ... it's taking advantage of the system and tells quite a bit about how he sees things.
The next time he criticizes that the government is taking from Albertans, he's going to have to explain this.
Every day.
All the time.
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Julie Ali · 

He doesn't have any sort of credibility now yapping to us about fiscal responsibility and appropriate use of taxpayer dollars when he is using our money to make a profit on a business venture.
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John Newman · 

Really! Nothing wrong eh. Just another form of double dipping. Get paid by the government get paid privately for the same thing. Typical right wing thinking. Screw the tax payer.
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Jason Specky · 

$7720 for three months rent for a BACHELOR SUITE??? Is this in The Pearl???
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Gail Affolter
Pay the money back Derek. You should know better & never mind bad mouthing Brian.
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Samantha Shaw · 

Disgusting... these people have no respect for taxpayer dollars
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Julie Ali · 

Yup. And now I am curious if this practice of investing taxpayer dollars to make a profitable business on the side is endemic among the other MLAs. Who will tell us?

How many MLAs are subletting their apartments and also getting paid the housing allowance?
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Sandra Lee · 

Really, he finds nothing wrong with this, that's full on double dipping.
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Les R. Landry · 

If he is entitled to the actual cost, the solution is very simple. Give him what is due to him minus what he is getting for subletting.
He ought not be making money by sliding the public purse.
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Halia Radiuk
Claim it in tax and reduce his $$ let rev Canada chase him.
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Joshie Drama Young · 

Sharon, good start for the new United Conservative Party.😒😏
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Kevin Hale · 

Step up to the plate Fildebrandt.

Fking toughguy

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Greg Albin · 

Oh boy we may have our own mike Duffy over here .i bet Derek's quite gay to pad his bank account at our expense *pun fully intended*
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Mike KC
Yes
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Zoë Sellers · 

Ladies and gentlemen the #UCP in action. Fildebrandt loves his government handouts, as long as they're for him.
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Julie Ali · 

Very sad indeed. But then the political hires know how to milk the system and taxpayers are all a herd of cows to them.
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Christina Lawrence · 

Disappointing but not surprising. This shows his character and view of the legislature
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John Nedd · 

WOW. Where's the CTF to explain the tax waste on this one!
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Susan Kleinsasser · 

And we are the dippers? Pft!
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Dianne Slade · 

What an upstanding guy. 🤑
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Allan Paquet · 

How do you spell hypocrite? F I L D E B R A N D T
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Marilyn Mckercher · 

Right-- blame the "leaker" not the actual guilty person. Very trumplike
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Gerald Wayne Skowronski · 
Works at Retired

Vermin.
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Bucky Bruno
What a crook!!
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Susanne Debney · 

Right Derek.
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Mįke Jøhnstøn
Kettle, meet pot.
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Jeanne Aalders · 

🤑🤑😡😡🤑
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Darren Bell · 
Works at Lowe's Canada

So basically thing's have not changed?
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Meina Buijze
Oh yes there is. That's my money supporting him
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Den Lars
Talks from two faces
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Barb Morin · 
Works at City of Edmonton

hope he claims the income on his taxes
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Daniel Chow
This is obviously more infighting.
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Dean Chiasson · 

Typical of all blood-sucking right-wingers.
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Albert Brule · 

Skypalace grifters
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Donald Schopflocher · 

And he may be one of the ethical ones!
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Wally Middleton
Thieves
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  • This revelation of the Fildebrandt renting out his apartment for additional bucks while at the same time claiming the housing allowance from us--seems sort of like poetical justice.
    First it confirms my opinion that politicians know how to milk the system and do so with a creativity that is never observed during their time in office.
    Second of all it also indicates to me at least that even folks who cried about the waste of public dollars while they were in the Canadian Taxpayers Federation are susceptible to temptation when they become politicians and interestingly can rationalize their actions as not being an abuse of the public purse when it sure seems like it is to me.
    Thirdly I am curious how long the MLA has been doing this and if the Wildrose Party folks were aware of this interesting way to use other peoples' money (our money) to turn a profit while all the while telling us that it's a waste of the apartment to leave it empty.
    Fourthly I am interested in the dilemma of what the Wildrose Party folks --now joined up with the Ebola Virus Party of the PCs will do to counter accusations from the public that this is sort of the Sky Palace fiasco of the PCs in the UCP format.
    I wonder what the NDP folks are going to do about this business venture of the Fildebrandt? Will they make a law to prohibit rental of the properties rented or owned by politicians who are getting a housing allowance by us? If they don't then the NDP folks will also join the Sky Palace crew of the PCs and the UCPs.
    It's also curious to me that we only hear of the profitable business venture of the Fildebrandt when he slams poor Mr. Jean who is now revealed as being a far more capable leader and politician than the Fildebrandt will ever be. After all, surely it was Mr. Jean's Camp that rolled out the data for the press?
    And thank you for doing this Mr. Jean's Camp.
    We don't want a repeat of the Sky Palace junk ever again.
    Better get on the fiscally Conservative path that you've always preached to us about Mr. Fildebrandt. Maybe don't do this sort of profiteering from our public purse. This does stink of the Duffy affair as well. Surely to goodness --all Conservatives aren't this user friendly with our public dollars?

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