Thursday, August 10, 2017

Liz Acheson Where's Jason Kenney on this double dipping??!!! Oh we know they are both former CTF folk, who loved to whine about obscenities, so let's hear them even try to wrangle out of this o

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John Newman Really! Nothing wrong eh. Just another form of double dipping. Get paid by the government get paid privately for the same thing. Typical right wing thinking. Screw the tax payer.
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Aaron Lemke Hahaha if you don't think both sides screw the tax payer there has to be something wrong.
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Bill Adams Aaron Lemke so that makes it right wow you are nuts
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Daniel Watson Aaron Lemke If both sides are doing it then set an example of fildebrant, make him pay back every extra cent he has earned. The next time someone is caught, from any political party, then it can be more than just a slap on the wrist seeing as the warning will have been made.
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Rory Kyte Ms Watson - why payback? If the rules clearly state that he was to claim out of pocket costs then he should have netted off the rental gains from his claim less reasonable agency fees (7 to 10% is Industry standard). 

But he didn't do that and if he 
signed an expense report like I see in every corporation that states you accept this is a fiat and true accounting in accordance with policy and that attempts to personally benefit will be seen as a dismissible offense that may be referred for prosecution then...

Lock him up! LOCK HIM UP!!!
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Julie Ali Bill Adams I don't think he was saying that this is right. He was saying both the NDP and the PCs or Liberals do this junk. I tend to agree with him.
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Julie Ali Daniel Watson The loophole should be closed by the NDP folks. If they don't do it one has to wonder why?
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Carol Rodd NDP MLA Debra Drever has "relations" with a beer bottle with no moral outrage. 
Using personal responsibility to earn money requiring less from the tax payer . . . . . MSM outrage. 


I guess the commie's want government officials to exclusively suck off the public teat.
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Dean Cail Math deficient?
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Carol Rodd Dean Cail 
Math is hard for socialist/marxists. Likely the reason they can't make it in the hard sciences like Engineering, Math, Commerce instead choosing the mickey mouse "Studies" programs.
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Harvey Bishop Carol Rodd Dean Cail Spouting nonsense again? Yes you are. We don't have marxists in Alberta. Nor do we have commies. The issue, Carol, is Derek's blatant hypocrisy and the fact that he got caught doing an unethical and illegal act. We got rid of the Alberta PCs, because of the unparralled corruption that they did in the last 30 years. The Alberta PCs did the most costliest scandals in Canadian history. Things like the $600 million NovaTel scandal, the now $5 billion Swan Hills waste treatment plant blunder, the almost $500 million blown bailing out West Edmonton Mall, the $400 million BSE bailout failure, the $34.5 billion electricity deregulation disaster, the $7 billion PPA debacle, the $2 billion wasted on carbon capture and storage, the $26 billion Northwest Upgrader fiasco, Alison Redford's $10 billion tobaccogate lawsuit scheme, (which she did and got away with it), etc. The UCP is only going to repeat things like these. It shows by what just happened. The UCP are not fit nor capable of ruling Alberta.
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Carol Rodd Harvey Bishop 
You saying we don't have marxists and communists in Alberta is the most ridiculous thing I have heard today. Half of the NDP cabinet are hard hard left wing fanatics, like the Edmonton MLA Hugo Chavez supporter originally from Venezuela
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Julie Ali Carol Rodd This is a silly comment. The NDP are more like the PCs than anyone else.
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Amy Kaler This is sounding very Trumpish: do something clearly unethical (like making a personal profit from an asset supplied through public funds) and then when busted, attempt to divert attention to whichever disgruntled former ally might have leaked this (Brian Jean is the problem!). This doesn't bode well for a united right in Alberta.
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Julie Ali I don't think Mr Jean is the problem but certainly Mr. Fildebrandt has been a problem to himself.
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Kyle D.W Wickstrom I guarantee he's not the only one gaming the system. Something tells me this story was meant for after he was supposed to announce his leadership bid. So much for that though hey postmedia?

Should cut everyone of these scum bag politicians off from the public tit. Build them a camp and pack em in like sardines like they do in the oil sands and be done with it.
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Julie Ali The NDP government should require revelations of all who are gaming the system in this way. Then they should close this loophole. And voters should fire the gamers.
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Brian LaBelle He's not running for leadership and has made that clear repeatedly.
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Julie Ali Brian LaBelle Yes, this is probably a good thing. Hopefully if Kenney wins we won't see him in Finance again.
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Anna Lori Pears DF will lose his job over this, and then will complain that the reason it happened was that he did not back Brian Jean as leader.
He has already proven himself to be a loose cannon, and the UCP do not need him.
This is not a reflection on the party, it is all about DF.

He needs to go.
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Julie Ali Mr. Jean is a nice man and it wasn't very nice of Derek Fildebrandt to say he is not good leadership material. As this case proves, Mr. Jean is very capable and has effectively neutralized the MLA who was too big for his britches.
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Rory Kyte But not I a particularly nice way...so perhaps not so nice a man?
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Julie Ali Rory Kyte In politics this is as nice as it gets-- public humiliation and then they will all make up and he will get a cabinet post under the Kenney guy if he wins. In Alberta, entitlement rules.
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Liz Acheson Where's Jason Kenney on this double dipping??!!! Oh we know they are both former CTF folk, who loved to whine about obscenities, so let's hear them even try to wrangle out of this one!
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Dean Cail Just as Kenney took his MP whilst campaigning for AB provincial politics: cut from the same cloth
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Les R. Landry If he is entitled to the actual cost, the solution is very simple. Give him what is due to him minus what he is getting for subletting.
He ought not be making money by sliding the public purse.
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Zenovia Moroz Exactly. That would be fair
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Kelly Winger Except he's not entitled to that money. He can claim UP TO that amount, but only actual expenses aka money that came out of his pocket as a direct result of his job-related accommodations expenses in your city. If he doesn't spend the money, he can't claim it.
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Carco Smith What is with these right wing conservatives be it in Canada or the US that makes them believe they are above the law of ethics. 😡 
UCP = Unethical Corrupt Privileged
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Carol Rodd The hypocrisy is mindblowing and it is troubling that so many don't know the difference between tax payer dollars and personal dollars. 
Filerbradt took zero taxpayer dollars. 
This reminds me of the fake media party outrage when Nigel Wright gave his
 personal money to Duffy, zero taxpayer dollars were involved. However, the fake scandal was what the media party used to fullfil their agenda. 
Meanwhile, Federally, you have Trudeau raking in millions from foreign donors to his "Foundation" for pay to play and to influence our elections. 
Google stumps for Trudeau with their algorhythms (caught again this week). 
Boycott Google.
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Harvey Bishop Carol Rodd That's nonsense. Yes, taxpayers dollars were involved with the Duffy affair and other Senate scandals, that the CPC did not properly deal with. The CPC had major corruption and Jason Kenney and Brian Jean were in the CPC and part of it. The $35 billion income trust scandal, the robocalls scandal, the proroging of Parliment, selling the Canadian Wheat Board to the Saudis and the CPC increased Canada's debt to around $150 billion - $170 billion, all by themselves. The UCP has corrupt Con artists from the provincial and federal levels in it. Real winners there. Actually, corrupt and incompetent is more like it with the UCP.
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Carol Rodd Harvey Bishop 
The scandal was with Nigel Wright giving Duffy $90000 of Nigel's own money.
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J.E. Molnar
 Fildebrandt needs to resign immediately for gross malfeasance by a public official.

Trying to defend this underhanded act of deception, Fildebrandt just outed himself as a vile hypocrite. The fact the Wildrose Party likely knew of the arrangement puts into question their suitability as a bona fide government-in-waiting. Double-dipping is not cool Mr. Fildebrandt.
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Graham MacFarlane Who remembers Jack Layton continuously getting slammed for "living in subsidized housing" when he lived in a co-op where he paid market rates but other tenants qualified for subsidies? Jason Kenney might remember.
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Lucia Iorio Kevin. ..I am a grown middle aged woman ... who had no choice but to put up with Conservative rule in this province for over 40 odd years...... and I do not need to be school by you. I will agree it speaks loud and clear to the character of the man. However, I stand by my comment it is most assuredly a Conservative trait..... let them eat cake
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Lisa M. Parks Oh boo hoo. This racist, homophobic millennial cries " unfair, they're picking on me" being caught cheating. He's butthurt because he had to drop out of the leadership race. Those of you who are defending him obviously aren't getting the point here. The rules says that you can claim UP TO a certain amount for ACTUAL expenses. Must be some apartment if he's claiming $7720 in three months for actual housing expenses. The income he gets from subletting it should be deducted from his actual expenses and the difference claimed. I sincerely doubt that his actual expenses after the subletting, for a bachelor suite in Edmonton, are $2500 a month. That apartment must be papered in gold leaf. What a sleaze.
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Pierre Dupont
 Mr. F. should probably remit those earned monies to the government. Governments generally have very strict reporting rules for MP expenses, etc...so yeah, this looks terrible, and would likely be a talking point if the shoe were on the NDP foot.
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Gord Lacey Some finance critic. If he was renting the apartment out in order to save money (reducing the costs) to tax-payers then he should be lauded, but he's pocketing the money - that's scummy.
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Jessica Sachs It's too bad he's not more politically astute. Instead of trying to claim entitlement and whining, he should be challenging every other MLA to reduce their housing costs with the same practice. Also, not to defend him, but I'd be very surprised if he were the only MLA or MP doing this, and I doubt they'd all be conservative.
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Allison Grant Fildebrant has to go. Plain and simple.

He's a slimy, smarmy jerk with no shame, ethic, honour, or pride. He's double dipping and then trying to politically spin it to get away with theft while unjustly trashing an opponent. He's sickening and represents his riding VERY poorly.
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Cara Schayer Scholl The article fails to mention his tenure as Alberta Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, an organization chiefly committed to holding government accountable for its use of public money. This type of behaviour—however permissable—has terrible optics and is exactly the type of thing the CTF would've railed on for months had a Liberal or NDP MLA engaged in something similar.
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Joel Duncan I hope they toss the bum next election: a full-blown whiner of NDP spending is caught in his very own greedy web of deceit - on the taxpayers dime no less. Get outta here Fildebrandt.
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Carl A. Busch With the money earned on Airbnb, there's no way his costs would be more than the allowance given. Someone has been improperly pocketing government funds... I'm looking at you Fildebrandt. Shame.
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Courtney Larson He always struck me as a bit of a slimeball, this just confirms it. And the way he just shrugs it off just reinforces it. This is clearly double dipping. His rent is being paid fully by taxpayers on this property and then he profits on it by charging rent again for the nights he is not using it. And please Derek, your plan was to use these profits to pay down our debt, come on, you think we are all morons???
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Simone SilverLining I would burn this guy at the stake. What an exploiter. Firstly, renting short-term is upping rental prices so that local people are unable to rent. This creates a complete dislocation for local communities. Secondly renting short-term is a commercial activity and I wonder if his property is zoned commercial? Is he paying taxes to the government for his clandestine commercial activity? Does his insurance know that he is using his apartment for commercial activities? If his apartment is in a condo - believe me - if there was a fire done by his short-term renters, and the building burnt to the ground, the condo's insurance would NOT pay the other owners for the destruction of their condo. He should immediately resign from the public office. He is a nasty little man
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Kai So Regardless of which MLA it is or which party that MLA belongs to, the right thing to do in a situation like this is to reimburse the government any income earned from subletting the dwelling. The concept is similar to when provincial public servants perform jury duty and they get paid from the courts system as a juror and paid leave from their regular job. All of the jury pay is forwarded back to the government.
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Vulgus Plebeian Here’s something I found kinda cool
I recently did a search about Canadian Federal Scandals,,, Did you know the blue team’s occurrences of Scandals out numbers all the other parties by a HUGE margin (like 3 to 1 even) 
So when I read $#!T like this,,, it doesn’t surprise me…
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Harvey Bishop Vulgus Plebeian The Alberta PCs, in the last 30 years, did multitudes of very costly scandals themselves and were allowed to get away with doing them for so long. $80 billion - $100 billion was wasted. Corruption at its finest. The UCP will only repeat that.
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Julie Ali Harvey Bishop Well we don't know this until we try them out. In any case, I doubt the NDP will win the next election. It's curious but most Albertans don't want to have debt and interest charges when we simply could reduce our liabilities in the public sector.
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Gail Affolter Pay the money back Derek. You should know better & never mind bad mouthing Brian.
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Julie Ali I agree with you. The bad mouthing of nice Mr. Jean reflects badly on Mr. Fildebrandt.
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Anne Amero If he thinks this is okay, then I hope the people who vote for him will remember this when it is election time. This is NOT okay!! He is given an allowance by the government to cover his actual expenses so renting out something he is already given an allowance for is double dipping!! He needs to understand it is tactics like this that let the NDP win the last election. People are fed up with elected officials using their position to their own advantage.
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Ian G McClelland This is so wrong. No wonder he quit the leadership race, he knew this was going to become news... and he knew it was wrong and knew it would doom his future.

As it should.


Even though his only life experience is as a loudmouth headline seeker one would have thought he would have had the common sense to understand the optics of this is horrible no matter the legalities. Goodbye Derek.
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Alain Pascal Routhier Fildebrandt just makes me sick the others in the kenny snake pit. he does hold a special place (like a few others).
a-moral individuals, belongs in jails or mental institutions.
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David Boroditsky Seems pretty straight-forward to me: MLAs are entitled to claim actual living expenses. Income earned from renting the place that Albertans have paid for, reduces his expenses. Therefore his claim should have been reduced. The fact that he doesn't see it this way raises questions about his ethics and his judgement.
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Alain Pascal Routhier Fildebrandt just makes me sick the others in the kenny snake pit. he does hold a special place (like a few others).
a-moral individuals, belongs in jails or mental institutions.
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Julie Ali This is a poor statement. The mentally ill don't deserve this contempt.
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David Boroditsky Seems pretty straight-forward to me: MLAs are entitled to claim actual living expenses. Income earned from renting the place that Albertans have paid for, reduces his expenses. Therefore his claim should have been reduced. The fact that he doesn't see it this way raises questions about his ethics and his judgement.
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Robert JL What a surprise. Mr.Pull Up Your Bootstraps Ayn Rand Libertarian is actually just another greedy and entitled conservative politican that thinks the rules don't apply to him because he has a bad haircut and hates unions. This is the guy angling for the top spot in the Ministry of Finance everybody. A real scrapper that will look out for the average joe. It is AMAZING reading the mental gymnastics in here that his supporters are willing to go through to defend this. It just goes to show that the blatant hypocrisy of so called 'conservatives' is perfectly acceptable to their supporters so long as their friends are benefitting. 

Also note that one of his AirBnB reviews says "as a single woman she wouldn't stay at his apartment again." A real sterling example of an Albertan gentleman to be sure.
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Bob Barnetson Where are all the right-wing apologists on this whole #Fildepockets issue? Surely there must be some way to blame this on socialists?
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Julie Ali Well if you want some complaints about the NDP folks here is one. What will the NDP folks do now faced with this poor example of abuse of the housing allowance? Or are they just going to yap about it and ignore the need to close this loophole?
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Jessica Sachs If he has been subtracting the amount received in payment for the AirBnB rentals from the amount claimed for rental and expenses, it truly has been above board and I would commend him for truly working to reduce the cost of government for the taxpayer. If he has been receiving full reimbursement for rent and utilities, and then making money on the same property that the government is essentially paying for, then he's double-dipping. It might be within the guidelines, but it's exactly the kind of practice that I'd hope a member of the UCP and spokesperson for the Taxpayer would help to clean up.
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Chris Conway Why is there such a fuss? Entitlement and double-dipping is standard stuff for Con politicians. Look at Duffy. Hell look at Kenney who traveled the province stumping to be PC leader while getting paid by federal taxpayers to be an MP.

How quickly e
veryone forgets the 44 years of PC sleaze. Just cos they changed their name doesn't mean they changed their game!

This hypocritical chump will likely be the Min of Finance in a Con govt. Go ahead and elect them - put their snouts back in the trough!
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Toby White My MLA allowed constituents to use his apartment when they had to be in Edmonton for hospital appointments, etc. But I guess you could also use it to make money...
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Zack Kirsch Had the plan from the start been to donate 100% of the AirBNB profits back to the Alberta government, (and he had paperwork to back up that he had been doing this from day one) I would actually applaud him for his efforts to save taxpayer money. The fact that he only mentioned donating the money after he was caught wreaks like Alison Redford. I think his constituents should respond to his behaviour accordingly.
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Matt Maciek Badura It is one thing to be reinbured for legitimate and fair costs of operation, it is another when you start using publicly funded allowances and benefits to line your own pockets. It speaks to the character, and entitlement, of each representative that is here to SERVE the populace, and it says, "I am here for me first and will make choices intented for my prosperity first". To me that mentality spills into other areas of decision making and is unhealthy for any public servant to possess. Government should strive for better results, while decreasing overal cost to attainting these results. Wether it is a mortgage that grows the value of a property, or a lease that you rent out when not around, the earnings should go back to the public coffers. 

But it does bring up conversation and maybe we can come up with better ideas. A communal building for MLAs to share seems like a good idea. It can double as a hotel when officials from other jurisdictions are in town.
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Bryan Darling Mathematically, even if he had deducted his property income ($320/month) from his expenses ($2570/month) he still would have been entitled to claim the maximum claimable at $2250/month or $27000 a year. The maximum is $23160. 

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He also obtains an unfair advantage over other AirBnB landlords using his government subsidy. With such a nice expensive place partially paid for by the taxpayer, he can get more business because he has a nicer and potentially cheaper Airbnb than other AirBnB landlords on the market.
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Les R. Landry I am on a disability pension and live with a government funded rent subsidy. What do you think would happen to me if I done what he is doing?
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Todd Saucier If the roles were reversed and it was a different party doing this Derek would be crying foul and taxpayer abuse to the people from the front steps and asking for an investigation. As it is it is him and obviously a political smear attempt from others he likely ticked off he is putting forth what he is. Not so comfortable when on the receiving end is it Derek. MLA's are cutthroat when it comes to politicking. Someone wants Derek out.
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Ray Wilk Simply more of the corruption of the Alberta right. Loud hypocritical individuals like Fildebrandt, always looking to better themselves. That is what these arrogant fools are about. He should have reduced his claim for the value of the rent. But these people are so greedy and manipulative they will take every advantage there position of power will afford them. Remember Alberta these people are in a position of power and they also understand the weird Albertan love of the right no matter how corrupt they are. Just another sky palace in the making. Now we know why he pulled out of the leadership race. Derek doesn't even understand the optics of hiw actions and he wants us to vote for him, laughable.
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Cindy Nylander He's not a true conservative He is a libertarian and he says it with pride like it's a good thing. Then he accusing a candidate he doesn't support of bringing this to light. Where's the proof derick You are in way over your head
Milton Friesen He gets a benefit for housing while away from his constituency and decided to use that amount to rent an apartment, capitalizing, as it were, from our bloated bureaucracy.

The moralists have no issue with that.


He decides to benefit even more from his apartment by renting it out when not in use, and thereby capitalizes on a market opportunity.

The moralists cry "unethical!"
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Dennis Ormrod how about a government dorm with a right and left wing? Then housing allowance wouldn't be necesssary. And a biker den mother with lots of tattoos to keep them apart after "lights out". Don't mean to offend bikers, I have tattoos too.
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Ked Edmonton Derek Fildebrandt (from a profession who are the most despised and least trusted) says there's nothing wrong with subletting his downtown Edmonton apartment on Airbnb while claiming thousands of dollars in taxpayer-funded PUBLIC housing subsidies....
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Stu Ball So then his income from BNB needs to be deducted off his expense allowance, its a not brainer, and Maybe CRA would like to have a look at this as well?
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Brendan Sherwin Here's the math why he wasn't saving us money and that he's a snow job liar. 
$7720/3months = $2573.33 per month is what he has as monthly claim. One can argue he has chosen over priced option for the amount of time spending at this location. If you 
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that by 12 months = $30,880 annually he will incur as expense. So instead of picking suitable location for the amount allowed. He will have to to make up the shortfall.

$30,880 minus allowable $23,160 = 7720 shortfall to make up 

Average yearly earnings from AirB&B based on first three months $2,555/3months x 12 = $10,220. Now he has put himself in spot where not only will he make up short fall but can earn extra income on the expense money he receives from the government. All sorts of shady this is. If this is common amongst our elected officials I certainly want to know.
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Kathleen Rae Oh Derek, you name is in the news again? My Grandma always told me, fools names and fools faces always show up in public places.
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