Thursday, August 10, 2017

Julie Ali Andy Conn Math is difficult for politicians of all political parties. Like · Reply · 10 hrs Manage Katherine MacRae Katherine MacRae Julie Ali It seems it's difficult for some posting comments here as well. Like · Reply · 1 · 9 hrs Manage Julie Ali Julie Ali Katherine MacRae I agree with you. I note that Mr. Fildebrandt is now donating his profits to the government. http://www.cbc.ca/.../fildebrandt-finance-leave-of... Fildebrandt said he has paid back the $2,555 he earned from renting out his apartment over eight months "to the taxpayer." A spokesperson for the UCP said Thursday Fildebrandt paid the money to the Legislative Assembly Office earlier in the day.

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Kris Singh Sorry that would be the definition of double dipping. 1 - claiming the rent as an expense. 2 - collecting additional rent because it is unused. See Derek that's two in case you can't count. Two dips would result in a double dip by definition.
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Andy Conn Math is hard for the alt-right
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Kris Singh I really thought Seinfeld properly defined the double dip. Guess not.
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Julie Ali I have to agree with you that this sort of business set up stinks. It may not break any current laws or regulations but it still stinks.

Regulations need to be present to ensure that subletting of a property is prohibited when the MLA is getting paid by the public purse for housing. Double payments should be made improper by legislation.
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Kris Singh It's a loop hole. If you expense rent then it has to be a cost to you. I can't go to my employer and expense say parking if I parked for free. It might be allowed but it's still double dipping.
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Susan McNeil Double dipping would be expensing two employers for the same bill.
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Kris Singh No double dipping would be collecting twice on one invoice. Has nothing to do with two employers.
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Nicole Wetsch Umm no Susan McNeil. Double dipping is getting paid twice for the same thing, regardless of where it comes from.
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Cherie Skolney Hope he has competition becuz I won't vote for him!
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Julie Ali Cherie Skolney I don't think he will get rehired.
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Linda Granholm Right because he is only allowed to charge for an actual expense. If he sublets he doesn't have an actual expense he has a side profit margin.
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Kris Singh Linda that's exactly it. He's basically found a loophole to expense the tax payer for a profit.
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Katherine MacRae Andy Conn Or perhaps math is hard for you. He was reimbursed $2574 per month for the apartment. Presumably, that is his rent, as he must submit expense receipts. So assuming that is his rent, annually, it exceeds the reimbursement to which he is entitled. 

Fildebrandt has stated the airbnb income he receives goes toward rent and maintenance. He would also have to pay tax on the airbnb income received.
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Kelly Winger Katherine MacRae Any money he makes off Air BnB should go to the entity paying for the apartment. Aka not into his own pocket. Making a profit off of taxpayers is a disgusting breach of ethics, EVEN IF that profit is being reinvested into the property. THAT IS STILL MONEY THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO HIM.
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Gary Feltham The optics may be bad, but it is certainly not double dipping as defined by most dicitionaries:

"Double dipping is defined as the act of getting compensation from two divisions of the same employer... An example of double dipping is to receive a pensi
on as a retired military officer while working for the government as a civilian."

Fildebrandt received the allowance from the provincial government and rental income from 3rd parties.
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Deryk Norton You must be using "dipper" (as in NDP) math as the information in this article clearly states that the AirBnB rental income is used to reduce actual housing expenses claimed. In other words it lowers the cost to the province.
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Katherine MacRae Kelly Winger Only if he is making a profit. He has stated he is not.
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Tracy Merrell At first I was outraged then I started looking at numbers. He claimed 7700 for three months living expenses which breakdown to about 2560 a month not a unreasonable amount considering that as much as people like to think that politicians don't do much...See More
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Harold Ingram Kris Singh much sooner trust him, I have had dealings with yours. However during sessions it is not double dipping. I am sure as a great student of commerce you would realize that before shooting your mouth off.
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Torch Rankin I don't believe the allowance covers living expenses, this portion is for housing only. I find it very difficult to believe one can't find a bachelor apartment in downtown Edmonton for 23 000 a year. Food is an expense for everyone, regardless of where they are living for work. The only question that matters, I think, is whether he claimed money for housing he did not have to pay, because it was covered by income from the subletters. The alberta rental laws mean maintenance is the landlord's expense, not a tenant's. It's not something he should be paying for as a renter.
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Julie Ali Katherine MacRae Hmm..so rental income goes to paying for his cleaning of his apartment and other expenses? Where are the receipts? And why would he need extra money? Doesn't he get enough cash from the MLA pay and expense allowance? He also gets a generous housing allowance.
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Julie Ali Katherine MacRae Any time he makes an income off the property it is money that is extra to the housing allowance. As such he is double dipping whether he has a profit or not.
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Julie Ali Harold Ingram This is double dipping. Also it is speaking from both sides of his mouth for the Fildebrandt to tell us that he is being fiscally responsible using our money to rent out a property that he gets more money from. He should not be doing this and it's a shame that it took the Wildrose Party so long to reveal this junk to us--i.e. only after the Fildebrandt yapped negatively about nice Mr. Jean. It's troubling but the optics and the ethics of this aren't good.
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Julie Ali Torch Rankin Yup. And where are his receipts for his so called maintenance, cleaning and other expenses?
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Katherine MacRae Julie Ali That assumes that his rent is less than the maximum allowance. The article states he claimed $7720 for accommodation between January and March, or $2573.00 per month, and earned $2,555 in 8 months on airbnb. If he is paying $2500 a month in rent, his annual rent exceeds the annual accommodation allowance the province reimburses, which is $23,160. In fact, if his rent is $2500 per month, then even with the airbnb earnings, he is still out of pocket.
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Julie Ali Andy Conn Math is difficult for politicians of all political parties.
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Katherine MacRae Julie Ali It seems it's difficult for some posting comments here as well.
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Julie Ali Katherine MacRae I agree with you. I note that Mr. Fildebrandt is now donating his profits to the government. http://www.cbc.ca/.../fildebrandt-finance-leave-of... Fildebrandt said he has paid back the $2,555 he earned from renting out his apartment over eight months "to the taxpayer." A spokesperson for the UCP said Thursday Fildebrandt paid the money to the Legislative Assembly Office earlier in the day.
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