Wednesday, August 9, 2017

Erik Scott "the rules explicitly state that MLAs are only entitled to the actual costs incurred" So all the money he's pocketed from renting it out is stolen from the taxpayers. People get arrested, charged, and hauled in front of a judge for shoplifting 20 bucks from the corner store. When will we hold scumbags like this to the same standards that the rest of us are held to? Like · Reply · 4 · 1 hr Manage Julie Ali Julie Ali Politicians make the laws. They are never accountable as a consequence. Only citizens are accountable and get penalties.

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The United Conservative Party MLA says there’s nothing wrong with him subletting his downtown Edmonton apartment while claiming thousands of dollars in rent from the public purse.
United Conservative Party MLA Derek Fildebrandt says there’s nothing wrong with him subletting his downtown Edmonton apartment while claiming thousands of…
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Jason Vaudrin Leave him alone you bastards!!! Do you know how much it cost to fill those jerry cans😳😳😳😳
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Jason Specky $7720 for three months rent for a BACHELOR SUITE??? Is this in The Pearl???
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Susan Lee I was thinking the same.....lots of money for a prairie apartment! Also Airbnb can rent daily or weekly....sounds like a profitable deal😉
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Jason Specky $2500 a month, roughly.
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Jason Specky That he claimed.
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Colton Pollard 2500 a month downtown is not crazy
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Torch Rankin For a 1 bedroom in Edmonton?! It's completely crazy.
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Julie Ali Even in downtown Calgary you can get an apartment for $1,000.
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Kelly Wolfert Workin' the system. 
Party politics aside ... it's taking advantage of the system and tells quite a bit about how he sees things. 
The next time he criticizes that the government is taking from Albertans, he's going to have to explain this. 

Every day. 
All the time.
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Julie Ali He doesn't have any sort of credibility now yapping to us about fiscal responsibility and appropriate use of taxpayer dollars when he is using our money to make a profit on a business venture.
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Thomas Dewey Julie Ali He has no moral compass.
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Julie Ali Thomas Dewey I guess this is how he got from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation preaching about fiscal mismanagement and the abuse of taxpayer dollars to this place of using public dollars for his own profit. Interesting how a transition to political life changes the behaviour.
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Ray Morgan Imagine if an NDP MLA was doing this. Derek Fildebrandt would be bellowing from the highest mountain in Alberta that the poor taxpayer was being abused. But, now that it's him being caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he claims it's all above board and that Albertans should be happy to buy him a flat that he can rent out to skim a few more dollars off of. If you want to see what entitlement and hypocrisy looks like, just take a look at ole Derek Fildebrandt.
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Lauren Makowecki So true. If the tables were turned there would be so much of that fake outrage coming from Fildebrandt.
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Julie Ali I agree. I am now curious how many other MLAs--of any political party are doing this sort of junk. Or was Mr. Fildebrandt the only one?
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May Mickelow Hear hear!
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Lucia Iorio Well Derek. ... that is what us working people call "Double Dipping".... can't believe I have to point that out to you.... oh..right you are a conservative.... Marie Antoinette famously said "let them eat cake" should be a tag line for the party....
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Kevin Dunbar So quick to point this out as a "conservative" thing. You need to grow up. Has nothing to do with the party, or the conservative movement, and EVERYTHING to do with the man himself.
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Kelly Wolfert Kevin Dunbar, the entitlement that follows the conservative right is now part of the UPC. The merger didn't make that go away. That entitlement is something the party has to address to voters. It's a real thing. So real there are election results to prove it. 
But yes ... it also speak very poorly for Fild. His defense of it shows how that above comment becomes valid. Albertans have seen it before.
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Julie Ali Kevin Dunbar Somehow we have seen a lot of Conservatives using the system to make out like bandits legally. Eg. Redford's Sky Palace when they were all trying to shut down the Michener Centre. Then the Duffy expenditures with various other senators showing us their elite and entitled use of the expense accounts. Finally we have the long history of the CEOs of the health authorities being paid major severance by the Conservative party in Alberta because.. .well I guess they all deserve money for being laid off. It's sad but the fiscally conservative folks are as wasteful as the NDP folks.
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Julie Ali eg of NDP waste--how about the $235 million "loan" to big oil for the orphan well program that is not our liability? What of the $30 million by the federal government for economic stimulation that was wasted to ensure this "loan" was tax free? All political parties waste money. Lucky for us we have now an example of the UCP folks doing the same junk.
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Andrew Robert Francis 'Although he said he’s done nothing wrong, Fildebrandt accused former Wildrose leader Brian Jean’s “backroom operators” of “personal smears” over the apartment on the day after he was critical of his former boss.'

So much for the United right!
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Julie Ali The Wildrose should never have merged with the PCs. There is no united right. There is just a group of folks hoping to become the next government.
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Tim Browatzke They said they were fiscally responsible. I say it stinks Redford in sheeps clothing! Did you exepect less from the elite?
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Lucia Iorio Like your post!
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Julie Ali All politicians are the same. All political parties are the same. Do you think the NDP are any different than the PCs or the UCP folks? We're just being naive when we think the different brands are unique.
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Eileen Banks So let me get this straight. We the taxpayer are paying the rent on this apartment. The MLA is making money on it by renting it out when he is not there, such as weekends. He pockets the money he makes. How is this not double dipping? He defends this by saying a lot of people with apartments rent them out when thy aren't around. True. He leaves out the part where those people are paying for those apartments out of their own pocket, not mine and yours.
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Julie Ali Thank you for the clear explanation of the facts. Now I am curious about the folks who think this is a fiscally sound way of using empty space.
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Rena Chiovelli Well, I mean, if you want to get all "detailed" about it....
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Jamie Biggs-Tillotson UCP apple doesn't fall from from the PC "dynasty" tree of entitlement apparently.
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Julie Ali Lovely way of putting it. The tree of the PCs (split and broken) bears rotten UCP fruit.
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Amy Kaler This is sounding very Trumpish: do something clearly unethical (like making a personal profit from an asset supplied through public funds) and then when busted, attempt to divert attention to whichever disgruntled former ally might have leaked this (Brian Jean is the problem!). This doesn't bode well for a united right in Alberta.
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Liz Acheson Where's Jason Kenney on this double dipping??!!! Oh we know they are both former CTF folk, who loved to whine about obscenities, so let's hear them even try to wrangle out of this one!
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Erik Scott "the rules explicitly state that MLAs are only entitled to the actual costs incurred"

So all the money he's pocketed from renting it out is stolen from the taxpayers. People get arrested, charged, and hauled in front of a judge for shoplifting 20 bucks from the corner store. When will we hold scumbags like this to the same standards that the rest of us are held to?
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Julie Ali Politicians make the laws. They are never accountable as a consequence. Only citizens are accountable and get penalties.
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Lucia Iorio Kevin. ..I am a grown middle aged woman ... who had no choice but to put up with Conservative rule in this province for over 40 odd years...... and I do not need to be school by you. I will agree it speaks loud and clear to the character of the man. However, I stand by my comment it is most assuredly a Conservative trait..... let them eat cake
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Pierre Dupont Mr. F. should probably remit those earned monies to the government. Governments generally have very strict reporting rules for MP expenses, etc...so yeah, this looks terrible, and would likely be a talking point if the shoe were on the NDP foot.
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Kyle D.W Wickstrom I guarantee he's not the only one gaming the system. Something tells me this story was meant for after he was supposed to announce his leadership bid. So much for that though hey postmedia?

Should cut everyone of these scum bag politicians off from the public tit. Build them a camp and pack em in like sardines like they do in the oil sands and be done with it.
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Julie Ali The NDP government should require revelations of all who are gaming the system in this way. Then they should close this loophole. And voters should fire the gamers.
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Carco Smith What is with these right wing conservatives be it in Canada or the US that makes them believe they are above the law of ethics. 😡 
UCP = Unethical Corrupt Privileged
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Graham MacFarlane Who remembers Jack Layton continuously getting slammed for "living in subsidized housing" when he lived in a co-op where he paid market rates but other tenants qualified for subsidies? Jason Kenney might remember.
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J.E. Molnar Fildebrandt needs to resign immediately for gross malfeasance by a public official.

Trying to defend this underhanded act of deception, Fildebrandt just outed himself as a vile hypocrite. The fact the Wildrose Party likely knew of the arrangement puts into question their suitability as a bona fide government-in-waiting. Double-dipping is not cool Mr. Fildebrandt.
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John Newman Really! Nothing wrong eh. Just another form of double dipping. Get paid by the government get paid privately for the same thing. Typical right wing thinking. Screw the tax payer.
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Anna Lori Pears DF will lose his job over this, and then will complain that the reason it happened was that he did not back Brian Jean as leader.
He has already proven himself to be a loose cannon, and the UCP do not need him.
This is not a reflection on the party, it is all about DF.

He needs to go.
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Julie Ali Mr. Jean is a nice man and it wasn't very nice of Derek Fildebrandt to say he is not good leadership material. As this case proves, Mr. Jean is very capable and has effectively neutralized the MLA who was too big for his britches.
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Gail Affolter Pay the money back Derek. You should know better & never mind bad mouthing Brian.
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Les R. Landry If he is entitled to the actual cost, the solution is very simple. Give him what is due to him minus what he is getting for subletting.
He ought not be making money by sliding the public purse.
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Samantha Shaw Disgusting... these people have no respect for taxpayer dollars
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Julie Ali Yup. And now I am curious if this practice of investing taxpayer dollars to make a profitable business on the side is endemic among the other MLAs. Who will tell us?

How many MLAs are subletting their apartments and also getting paid the housing allowance?
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Brian Keller What did he used to say about a culture of entitlement?
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Sandra Lee Really, he finds nothing wrong with this, that's full on double dipping.
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Joshie Drama Young Sharon, good start for the new United Conservative Party.😒😏
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Greg Albin Oh boy we may have our own mike Duffy over here .i bet Derek's quite gay to pad his bank account at our expense *pun fully intended*
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Mike KC Yes
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Kevin Hale Step up to the plate Fildebrandt. 

Fking toughguy
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Halia Radiuk Claim it in tax and reduce his $$ let rev Canada chase him.
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Dean Chiasson Typical of all blood-sucking right-wingers.
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Larry Phillips Oh, the left would never do this !
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Dean Chiasson Larry Phillips I'm not suggesting otherwise. However, as a general rule the pig's snout in the trough is most often a right-wing one.
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Zoë Sellers Ladies and gentlemen the #UCP in action. Fildebrandt loves his government handouts, as long as they're for him.
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Julie Ali Very sad indeed. But then the political hires know how to milk the system and taxpayers are all a herd of cows to them.
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Scott Hicks Is the fact that he dropped-out of the UCP Leadership race yesterday a coincidence? LOL
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Gloria Galas They never change do they
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Terry Ledingham Just more of the same 'Old Conservative Entitlement Clause' that went on before.
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Chris Spady This from mr fiscal Derek who never saw a tax he didn't like. But it is ok for him to scam the system... hypocrite!
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Brendan M. Smith Yeah and Mike Duffy was found innocent too, this stinks and everyone, even cons, know it!
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Daniel George Clearly he's a sociopath. How anybody can support this sad human being is beyond me...
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Christina Lawrence Disappointing but not surprising. This shows his character and his view of the legislature. Telling
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Susan Kleinsasser And we are the dippers? Pft!
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Lori Misura I betcha rev canada will have something to say about it!
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Joan Paton The oroblematic ethics of taking money from the public to pay your rent and then making money by re-renting it to someone else should not need to be explained to him. This is not like using a housing stipend to pay a mortgage or pay rent where you live. Pretty shameful in my mind.
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Linda Block He is a disgrace and should resign. This is the type of entitlement we should be getting rid of
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Dedee Marie Morie CONservatives never change !!! Always take care of themselves ...
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John Nedd WOW. Where's the CTF to explain the tax waste on this one!
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Carole Moon If a person does not have integrity, I personally don't want that person representing me on the political stage.
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Andrés Dean “They’re going to have to justify why they are there in the first place and how they’re doing things and are they doing it the best possible way for the best possible value to taxpayers.”

- Derek Fildebrant
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Nathan Mah Cmon guys!!! This is what Alberta wants ... future entitled mla's
Love
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Iain Campbell Well there is the look of surprise on my face. NOT. "The apple didn't fall far from the tree".
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Bill Adams he he he heha the United corrupt party shows how they will govern, he he h aha
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Marilyn Mckercher Right-- blame the "leaker" not the actual guilty person. Very trumplike
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Dianne Slade What an upstanding guy. 🤑
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Allan Paquet How do you spell hypocrite? F I L D E B R A N D T
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Julie Ali Actually let us not be too harsh. All Politicians are hypocrites not just the Fildebrandt.
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Bucky Bruno What a crook!!
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Mįke Jøhnstøn Kettle, meet pot.
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Darren Bell So basically thing's have not changed?
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Susanne Debney Right Derek.
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Meina Buijze Oh yes there is. That's my money supporting him
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Den Lars Talks from two faces
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Jeanne Aalders 🤑🤑😡😡🤑
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Daniel Chow This is obviously more infighting.
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Albert Brule Skypalace grifters
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Donald Schopflocher And he may be one of the ethical ones!
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Heidi Willis Sounds like half of the Edmontonians out there lol.
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Julie Ali I guess we don't like being preached to by a guy who is not preacher material.
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Wally Middleton Thieves
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Thomas Dewey His next scheme is to claim mileage for rental cars.
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Jason Baldwin Even if it's legal it looks super sleazy.
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Scot Guignion Good by
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Chris Spady That should read a tax he didn't HATE!!
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Garth Brunt Shame!
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Steve Tustin Does the CRA know?
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