Friday, August 11, 2017

Bob Barnetson Where are all the right-wing apologists on this whole #Fildepockets issue? Surely there must be some way to blame this on socialists?




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Eileen Banks So let me get this straight. We the taxpayer are paying the rent on this apartment. The MLA is making money on it by renting it out when he is not there, such as weekends. He pockets the money he makes. How is this not double dipping? He defends this by saying a lot of people with apartments rent them out when thy aren't around. True. He leaves out the part where those people are paying for those apartments out of their own pocket, not mine and yours.
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Julie Ali Thank you for the clear explanation of the facts. Now I am curious about the folks who think this is a fiscally sound way of using empty space.
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Rena Chiovelli Well, I mean, if you want to get all "detailed" about it....
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Mike Olesik According to gary feltham, that is not double dipping, hahaha
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Donald Wiwad Julie Ali ; Do you remember Jean sleeping in a tent after the Fort Mc. fire? Was his tax paid aprt. rented out at that time? Just asking. lol
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Julie Ali Donald Wiwad I don't know what this has to do with Mr. Fildebrandt's use of his empty space but there you go. You add your perspective confusing though it is.
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Andrew Robert Francis 'Although he said he’s done nothing wrong, Fildebrandt accused former Wildrose leader Brian Jean’s “backroom operators” of “personal smears” over the apartment on the day after he was critical of his former boss.'

So much for the United right!
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Julie Ali The Wildrose should never have merged with the PCs. There is no united right. There is just a group of folks hoping to become the next government.
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Linda Leahy Typical RIGHT WINGERS only in it for themselves. He is a hypricate.
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Les R. Landry Makes me wonder how much did Brian Jean know and when did he find out.
If he and his caucus knew this was going on, they are all to blame for letting it carry on.
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John Newman Really! Nothing wrong eh. Just another form of double dipping. Get paid by the government get paid privately for the same thing. Typical right wing thinking. Screw the tax payer.
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Aaron Lemke Hahaha if you don't think both sides screw the tax payer there has to be something wrong.
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Bill Adams Aaron Lemke so that makes it right wow you are nuts
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Daniel Watson Aaron Lemke If both sides are doing it then set an example of fildebrant, make him pay back every extra cent he has earned. The next time someone is caught, from any political party, then it can be more than just a slap on the wrist seeing as the warning will have been made.
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Rory Kyte Ms Watson - why payback? If the rules clearly state that he was to claim out of pocket costs then he should have netted off the rental gains from his claim less reasonable agency fees (7 to 10% is Industry standard). 

But he didn't do that and if he 
signed an expense report like I see in every corporation that states you accept this is a fiat and true accounting in accordance with policy and that attempts to personally benefit will be seen as a dismissible offense that may be referred for prosecution then...

Lock him up! LOCK HIM UP!!!
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Julie Ali Bill Adams I don't think he was saying that this is right. He was saying both the NDP and the PCs or Liberals do this junk. I tend to agree with him.
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Julie Ali Daniel Watson The loophole should be closed by the NDP folks. If they don't do it one has to wonder why?
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Doris Johnson To be fair, I find it hard to find much wrong with Mr Fildebrandt's actions. He is entitled to claim up to $23,160 of our money for accomodation. Instead, he has rented his place out periodically and claimed only $7,720. That means he saved us the taxpayers $15,440. Doesn't seem to be much wrong with that.
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Kelly Winger Your math is off. Re-read. He claimed $7720 over a three-month period and during that period had a minimum of 8 Air BnB renters. Plenty wrong with that.
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Daniel Watson He hasn't deducted his earning from AirBnB from what he has claimed for rent at all.
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Brian LaBelle He had a chance to be a leader and come up with a way to save taxpayers money like you suggested, instead he chose to use our money to subsidize his rental business. 

You know that if somebody was using their AISH payments to pay off a second mortgage on the house they rent out that Derek would accuse them of "playing the system".
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Brendan M. Smith Seriously. You didn't get that he has only claimed for the first three months of the year. He was heading for the whole subsidy, while. Asking a profit off tax supported rent, how is this not clear!
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Dave MacDougall I am agreeing with the Wow comment.
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Julie Ali Brian LaBelle Yup. Anyone on AISH who did this would have income clawed back stat and be kicked off AISH. We have the MLA doing it and no consequences. None.
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Tim Browatzke
 They said they were fiscally responsible. I say it stinks Redford in sheeps clothing! Did you exepect less from the elite?
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Lucia Iorio Like your post!
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Julie Ali All politicians are the same. All political parties are the same. Do you think the NDP are any different than the PCs or the UCP folks? We're just being naive when we think the different brands are unique.
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Carol Rodd NDP MLA Debra Drever has "relations" with a beer bottle with no moral outrage. 
Using personal responsibility to earn money requiring less from the tax payer . . . . . MSM outrage. 


I guess the commie's want government officials to exclusively suck off the public teat.
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Dean Cail Math deficient?
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Carol Rodd Dean Cail 
Math is hard for socialist/marxists. Likely the reason they can't make it in the hard sciences like Engineering, Math, Commerce instead choosing the mickey mouse "Studies" programs.
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Harvey Bishop Carol Rodd Dean Cail Spouting nonsense again? Yes you are. We don't have marxists in Alberta. Nor do we have commies. The issue, Carol, is Derek's blatant hypocrisy and the fact that he got caught doing an unethical and illegal act. We got rid of the A...See More
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Carol Rodd Harvey Bishop 
You saying we don't have marxists and communists in Alberta is the most ridiculous thing I have heard today. Half of the NDP cabinet are hard hard left wing fanatics, like the Edmonton MLA Hugo Chavez supporter originally from Venezuela
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Julie Ali Carol Rodd This is a silly comment. The NDP are more like the PCs than anyone else.
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Erik Scott "the rules explicitly state that MLAs are only entitled to the actual costs incurred"

So all the money he's pocketed from renting it out is stolen from the taxpayers. People get arrested, charged, and hauled in front of a judge for shoplifting 20 bucks from the corner store. When will we hold scumbags like this to the same standards that the rest of us are held to?
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Julie Ali Politicians make the laws. They are never accountable as a consequence. Only citizens are accountable and get penalties.
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Cam Wilson Julie Ali Yes its called legal corruption, the worst of its kind because it cant l be eradicated.
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Julie Ali Cam Wilson Why are politicians so lucky? Because they know how to make the laws to benefit themselves and not citizens. It's troubling.
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Jamie Biggs-Tillotson UCP apple doesn't fall from from the PC "dynasty" tree of entitlement apparently.
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Julie Ali Lovely way of putting it. The tree of the PCs (split and broken) bears rotten UCP fruit.

Les R. Landry If he is entitled to the actual cost, the solution is very simple. Give him what is due to him minus what he is getting for subletting.
He ought not be making money by sliding the public purse.
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Zenovia Moroz Exactly. That would be fair
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Kelly Winger Except he's not entitled to that money. He can claim UP TO that amount, but only actual expenses aka money that came out of his pocket as a direct result of his job-related accommodations expenses in your city. If he doesn't spend the money, he can't claim it.
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Les R. Landry Kelly Winger That is what I said in the first eight words of my comment.
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Amy Kaler This is sounding very Trumpish: do something clearly unethical (like making a personal profit from an asset supplied through public funds) and then when busted, attempt to divert attention to whichever disgruntled former ally might have leaked this (Brian Jean is the problem!). This doesn't bode well for a united right in Alberta.
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Julie Ali I don't think Mr Jean is the problem but certainly Mr. Fildebrandt has been a problem to himself.
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Kyle D.W Wickstrom I guarantee he's not the only one gaming the system. Something tells me this story was meant for after he was supposed to announce his leadership bid. So much for that though hey postmedia?

Should cut everyone of these scum bag politicians off from the public tit. Build them a camp and pack em in like sardines like they do in the oil sands and be done with it.
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Julie Ali The NDP government should require revelations of all who are gaming the system in this way. Then they should close this loophole. And voters should fire the gamers.
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Brian LaBelle He's not running for leadership and has made that clear repeatedly.
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Julie Ali Brian LaBelle Yes, this is probably a good thing. Hopefully if Kenney wins we won't see him in Finance again.
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Anna Lori Pears DF will lose his job over this, and then will complain that the reason it happened was that he did not back Brian Jean as leader.
He has already proven himself to be a loose cannon, and the UCP do not need him.
This is not a reflection on the party, it is all about DF.

He needs to go.
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Julie Ali Mr. Jean is a nice man and it wasn't very nice of Derek Fildebrandt to say he is not good leadership material. As this case proves, Mr. Jean is very capable and has effectively neutralized the MLA who was too big for his britches.
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Rory Kyte But not I a particularly nice way...so perhaps not so nice a man?
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Julie Ali Rory Kyte In politics this is as nice as it gets-- public humiliation and then they will all make up and he will get a cabinet post under the Kenney guy if he wins. In Alberta, entitlement rules.
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Carco Smith What is with these right wing conservatives be it in Canada or the US that makes them believe they are above the law of ethics. 😡 
UCP = Unethical Corrupt Privileged
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Vulgus Plebeian Here’s something I found kinda cool
I recently did a search about Canadian Federal Scandals,,, Did you know the blue team’s occurrences of Scandals out numbers all the other parties by a HUGE margin (like 3 to 1 even) 
So when I read $#!T like this,,, it doesn’t surprise me…
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Harvey Bishop Vulgus Plebeian The Alberta PCs, in the last 30 years, did multitudes of very costly scandals themselves and were allowed to get away with doing them for so long. $80 billion - $100 billion was wasted. Corruption at its finest. The UCP will only repeat that.
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Julie Ali Harvey Bishop Well we don't know this until we try them out. In any case, I doubt the NDP will win the next election. It's curious but most Albertans don't want to have debt and interest charges when we simply could reduce our liabilities in the public sector.
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Carol Rodd The hypocrisy is mindblowing and it is troubling that so many don't know the difference between tax payer dollars and personal dollars. 
Filerbradt took zero taxpayer dollars. 
This reminds me of the fake media party outrage when Nigel Wright gave his
 personal money to Duffy, zero taxpayer dollars were involved. However, the fake scandal was what the media party used to fullfil their agenda. 
Meanwhile, Federally, you have Trudeau raking in millions from foreign donors to his "Foundation" for pay to play and to influence our elections. 
Google stumps for Trudeau with their algorhythms (caught again this week). 
Boycott Google.
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Harvey Bishop Carol Rodd That's nonsense. Yes, taxpayers dollars were involved with the Duffy affair and other Senate scandals, that the CPC did not properly deal with. The CPC had major corruption and Jason Kenney and Brian Jean were in the CPC and part of it. The $35 billion income trust scandal, the robocalls scandal, the proroging of Parliment, selling the Canadian Wheat Board to the Saudis and the CPC increased Canada's debt to around $150 billion - $170 billion, all by themselves. The UCP has corrupt Con artists from the provincial and federal levels in it. Real winners there. Actually, corrupt and incompetent is more like it with the UCP.
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Carol Rodd Harvey Bishop 
The scandal was with Nigel Wright giving Duffy $90000 of Nigel's own money.
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Bob Barnetson Where are all the right-wing apologists on this whole #Fildepockets issue? Surely there must be some way to blame this on socialists?
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Julie Ali Well if you want some complaints about the NDP folks here is one. What will the NDP folks do now faced with this poor example of abuse of the housing allowance? Or are they just going to yap about it and ignore the need to close this loophole?
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Bob Barnetson Julie Like the PCs did when this happened last time (1992)? I expect we'll see changes this time. Interesting how a libertarian like Fildepockets cAn't seem to control himself and needs more government rules....
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Julie Ali Bob Barnetson Hopefully you are right. Usually politicians only make changes when there is #MediaAttention and #SocialMediaAttention.
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Lisa M. Parks Oh boo hoo. This racist, homophobic millennial cries " unfair, they're picking on me" being caught cheating. He's butthurt because he had to drop out of the leadership race. Those of you who are defending him obviously aren't getting the point here. The rules says that you can claim UP TO a certain amount for ACTUAL expenses. Must be some apartment if he's claiming $7720 in three months for actual housing expenses. The income he gets from subletting it should be deducted from his actual expenses and the difference claimed. I sincerely doubt that his actual expenses after the subletting, for a bachelor suite in Edmonton, are $2500 a month. That apartment must be papered in gold leaf. What a sleaze.
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Pierre Dupont Mr. F. should probably remit those earned monies to the government. Governments generally have very strict reporting rules for MP expenses, etc...so yeah, this looks terrible, and would likely be a talking point if the shoe were on the NDP foot.
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Gord Lacey Some finance critic. If he was renting the apartment out in order to save money (reducing the costs) to tax-payers then he should be lauded, but he's pocketing the money - that's scummy.
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Jessica Sachs It's too bad he's not more politically astute. Instead of trying to claim entitlement and whining, he should be challenging every other MLA to reduce their housing costs with the same practice. Also, not to defend him, but I'd be very surprised if he were the only MLA or MP doing this, and I doubt they'd all be conservative.
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Allison Grant Fildebrant has to go. Plain and simple.

He's a slimy, smarmy jerk with no shame, ethic, honour, or pride. He's double dipping and then trying to politically spin it to get away with theft while unjustly trashing an opponent. He's sickening and represents his riding VERY poorly.
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Cara Schayer Scholl The article fails to mention his tenure as Alberta Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, an organization chiefly committed to holding government accountable for its use of public money. This type of behaviour—however permissable—has terrible optics and is exactly the type of thing the CTF would've railed on for months had a Liberal or NDP MLA engaged in something similar.
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Joel Duncan I hope they toss the bum next election: a full-blown whiner of NDP spending is caught in his very own greedy web of deceit - on the taxpayers dime no less. Get outta here Fildebrandt.
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Carl A. Busch With the money earned on Airbnb, there's no way his costs would be more than the allowance given. Someone has been improperly pocketing government funds... I'm looking at you Fildebrandt. Shame.
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Courtney Larson He always struck me as a bit of a slimeball, this just confirms it. And the way he just shrugs it off just reinforces it. This is clearly double dipping. His rent is being paid fully by taxpayers on this property and then he profits on it by charging rent again for the nights he is not using it. And please Derek, your plan was to use these profits to pay down our debt, come on, you think we are all morons???

Simone SilverLining I would burn this guy at the stake. What an exploiter. Firstly, renting short-term is upping rental prices so that local people are unable to rent. This creates a complete dislocation for local communities. Secondly renting short-term is a commercial activity and I wonder if his property is zoned commercial? Is he paying taxes to the government for his clandestine commercial activity? Does his insurance know that he is using his apartment for commercial activities? If his apartment is in a condo - believe me - if there was a fire done by his short-term renters, and the building burnt to the ground, the condo's insurance would NOT pay the other owners for the destruction of their condo. He should immediately resign from the public office. He is a nasty little man
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Kai So Regardless of which MLA it is or which party that MLA belongs to, the right thing to do in a situation like this is to reimburse the government any income earned from subletting the dwelling. The concept is similar to when provincial public servants perform jury duty and they get paid from the courts system as a juror and paid leave from their regular job. All of the jury pay is forwarded back to the government.
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Gail Affolter Pay the money back Derek. You should know better & never mind bad mouthing Brian.
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Julie Ali I agree with you. The bad mouthing of nice Mr. Jean reflects badly on Mr. Fildebrandt.
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