Monday, June 26, 2017

Julie Ali Just now · Commenting for Vancouver Sun · It is getting confusing in BC. The Liberals are acting like the NDP. The NDP are acting like the Liberals. It's almost a carbon copy political circus to the situation in Alberta where the Wildrose are acting like the NDP folks used to do by representing the public interest while the NDP folks act like the PCs in decreasing transparency and subverting the public interest. It's almost like every political party is now a chimera of sorts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)


It is getting confusing in BC. The Liberals are acting like the NDP. The NDP are acting like the Liberals.
It's almost a carbon copy political circus to the situation in Alberta where the Wildrose are acting like the NDP folks used to do by representing the public interest while the NDP folks act like the PCs in decreasing transparency and subverting the public interest.
It's almost like every political party is now a chimera of sorts.
VICTORIA — B.C.’s Liberal government tried to use its dying days to ban union and corporate donations with the co-operation of the same opposition parties that later…
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Greens and NDP combine to vote down B.C. Liberal bills

Published on: June 26, 2017 | Last Updated: June 26, 2017 8:36 PM PDT
B.C. Green party leader Andrew Weaver arrives to the start of the debate at B.C. Legislature in Victoria, B.C., on Monday, June 26, 2017.
B.C. Green party Leader Andrew Weaver arrives for the start of the debate at the B.C. Legislature in Victoria on Monday. CHAD HIPOLITO / CP
VICTORIA — B.C.’s weakened Liberal government suffered its first taste of defeat after almost 16 years of majority political dominance Monday, setting the stage for the party’s ultimate ouster from office later this week.
The Liberals were outvoted on two bills in the legislature, including one that reversed the party’s long-standing opposition to banning corporate and union donations for political parties.
An alliance of NDP and Green MLAs, which hold a one-vote margin over the Liberals, rejected even debating the Liberal bills and instead called for the government’s immediate removal.
In a mark of how bizarre B.C.’s political situation has become since the close May 9 election results, it’s believed to be the first time in the province’s history that a government bill has been defeated in the “first-reading” stage, which effectively kills it before it’s ever even read in the legislature.
“This is not a session about the premier testing legislation, this is about testing the confidence of the House, that’s why we are here, that’s why we should get on with it,” said NDP Leader John Horgan. “If the premier keeps wanting to introducing NDP platform planks, that’s fine. But I think the NDP would be better at doing that. And that’s why we should have a confidence vote.”
But Premier Christy Clark refused to help accelerate her ultimate demise.
“No British Columbians want another election,” she said. “Let’s get on with the business of government, lets make sure the throne speech gains the confidence of this House … and we’ll make sure we can continue with the strongest economy anywhere in Canada.”
Horgan tabled an amendment of non-confidence in Clark’s throne speech Monday. The NDP called for unanimous support of the legislature to have a snap vote, but the Liberals were opposed.
B.C. NDP Leader John Horgan arrives with Leslie McBain, founder of ‘Moms Stop the Harm,’ to speak to the media from the Rose Garden at the B.C. legislature in Victoria on Monday. CHAD HIPOLITO / CP
The earliest confidence vote under legislature rules is now set for Thursday at 5:30 p.m. If the Liberal government falls, Lt.-Gov. Judith Guichon could call upon Horgan to form a new government or call a new election.
In the meantime, the Liberals are set to debate a throne speech they introduced last week, which saw a shift in more than two dozen policy positions that the Liberals hadn’t campaigned on before the May 9 election. New promises included an end to a 10-year freeze on welfare rates, the elimination of Metro Vancouver bridge tolls, a referendum on electoral reform and a Royal Commission on public education. Critics inside and outside the Liberal party questioned the abrupt shift.
Deputy Premier Rich Coleman disputed any friction within the Liberal free-enterprise coalition, specifically with fiscal conservatives worried about the unspecified cost of all the new promises.
“My feedback from my supporters, which you would consider probably the conservative area of the province, has been very strong,” he said.
Coleman defended the Liberals’ refusal to move up the confidence vote from Thursday, saying the legislature’s rules are more important than ever in “a very strange period of time.”
“The House has got its rules and if there’s one thing I believed in, whether it be the five years I was in opposition or the 16 years in government, is I believe the rules of this House are the tenets of the fundamentals of democracy and if you want to give up on those and you start chipping away at them you might as well chip away at a bunch of other freedoms,” said Coleman. “So the rules of four days of debate (before a vote) … I think we should follow those rules.”
In a sign of disdain, the NDP and Greens offered only one MLA each to debate the Liberal throne speech, refusing to participate otherwise. The Liberals are to speak for three days on their own speech.
The defeated Liberal bill on political finance had promised to ban corporate and union donations, set an annual contribution limit of $2,500, forbid “in-kind” donations of staff and resources, restrict certain types of loans and ban foreign donations. It would have also applied to municipal elections.
Green Leader Andrew Weaver, who had said recently he could support the Liberal bill, changed his position Monday.
“It’s not appropriate for us to be debating government business until such time as the confidence has been tested,” he said, before suggesting he might amend a future NDP bill to include some of the Liberal ideas.
Liberal House Leader Mike de Jong speaks during a news conference from his office at the B.C. legislature in Victoria on Monday. CHAD HIPOLITO / CP
Monday’s legislative proceedings also included the unusual spectacle of NDP MLAs, who are likely to soon become cabinet ministers, quizzing placeholder Liberal cabinet ministers about their portfolios.
Horgan and Clark sparred directly during Question Period.
Clark urged MLAs to vote in favour of her throne speech, calling it a sincere effort to take the campaign ideas of the opposition parties and enact them through her government.
“The road to stability is not to defeat the throne speech and risk an election,” she said.
Horgan scoffed at that request.
“The B.C. Liberals may think they have a divine right to rule in British Columbia, but the people of British Columbia feel decidedly different about that,” he said.
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Chris Conway
They're all the same. One is as bad as the other and none of them will be an improvement. Shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Julie Ali · 
I agree with you. The NDP folks in Alberta are a copy of the PCs and are even worse in terms of transparency. One thing is for sure, we're all stuck with the same old same old in terms of defensive governemnt operation in Alberta no matter who we hire.
Hopefully the arrangement between the NDP and Greens will lead to better governance but really in the end it's all about the private interests of the political parties; none of them operate in the public interest.
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Barry Stuber
Horgans gong show won't end well
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Matt White
Shovels in the ground KINDER MORGAN!!!!!!!!!!
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Eugene Wells
Quite fight amongst ourselves and actually do your job and fix the real problems in the province address homeless elderly Hospital schools that's what you get paid for not helping private interest groups of any kind ..Yet all you care about is your greedy selfs
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Julie Ali · 
You got it.
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