Tuesday, May 30, 2017

-Yet there will be no consequences for those who don’t adhere to the new rules.--------Velvet Martin · Founder at Samantha's Law STILL no repercussions for employees who fail to follow Policy; thus, we will continue to revisit the deaths of children in care. :( Unlike · Reply · 2 · 1 hr Julie Ali · University of Alberta Really Velvet--did you expect the NDPCs to do the right thing by the children? It is never the purpose of the politicians to do the right thing. It's our purpose. Let's go kick GOA rump.


So what I understood from Minister Larivee's chatter is that folks are supposed to provide information to the advocate but there are no penalties if they don't provide information.
Isn't this then the same situation as we had without this law?
I find it mind boggling that we have MLAs who can't seem to make appropriate legislation.
Here are some hints:
1) All folks associated with any child who dies must provide information to the advocate or there will be major penalties.
2) Failure to disclose problems associated with the child death will result in charges and job loss.
3) Advocate must produce a report and hold the failures who were responsible for the child death -accountable.
4) Government must act on the recommendations of the advocate ASAP and if required ensure folks are fired.
5) MLAs who sit around making useless laws like this one should not be rehired by the public in the future. I think we understand that such MLAs are killing time and wasting our public dollars and maybe the Wildrose MLAs would be able to make laws that hold folks accountable. Like the folks who were responsible for the unnecessary death of Serenity #justiceforSerenity

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So let me get this straight. Information is now to be given to the advocate who is to now investigate every child death.
So why wasn't information being given to the advocate proactively before?
Why the failures to disclose?
And what happens when the advocate produces the report with no one being held accountable for the deaths? Isn't this rather a specious situation where we have information that might indicate wrong and the advocate unable to attribute wrong?
Aren't we in the same place as before this change was made? I mean if the advocate gets more information and he can't tell us about the implications of the add on information then we still have no ability to assign penalty, blame and accountability for the failures right?
So is the whole purpose of this change by the Minister who isn't very productive to make us feel that there will be paper generated for every child death but no accountability will ensue from the paper generation?
So isn't this a waste of public dollars?
Why not just bury the kids and be done with it?


Alberta’s child and youth advocate will examine every death of a child in government care, under new legislation tabled Tuesday. The advocate also will have to publicly…
EDMONTONJOURNAL.COM

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http://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/alberta-government-to-unveil-changes-to-reviews-of-children-who-die-in-care



All deaths of children in care to be reviewed within a year under proposed Alberta law

Published on: May 30, 2017 | Last Updated: May 30, 2017 3:27 PM MDT
Danielle Larivee, Alberta Children's Services minister, tabled the Child Protection and Accountability Act at the legislature on May 30, 2017. The proposed bill would see every child death in government care reviewed by the child advocate's office within a year.
Danielle Larivee, Alberta Children's Services minister, tabled the Child Protection and Accountability Act at the legislature on May 30, 2017. The proposed bill would see every child death in government care reviewed by the child advocate's office within a year. LARRY WONG /POSTMEDIA
Alberta’s child and youth advocate will examine every death of a child in government care, under new legislation tabled Tuesday.
The advocate also will have to publicly report on each child death review, and complete each investigation within one year.
Under the changes, any ministry or agency that interacted with a child who dies in care must proactively share information with the advocate. People who share information about the circumstances of a child’s death will be shielded from legal repercussions, unless the details are revealed by police in the course of their own investigations.
The changes are part of Bill 18. They stem from recommendations made by the first phase of the province’s child intervention panel.

Child services culture shift

Children’s Services Minister Danielle Larivee said the notion of proactive sharing marks a massive culture shift for child services.
“The proactive disclosure piece is huge in terms of highlighting the fact that information sharing is as important — or more important sometimes — than the privacy pieces,” she said Tuesday.
Yet there will be no consequences for those who don’t adhere to the new rules.
For Wildrose children’s services critic Jason Nixon, that’s a big problem.
Nixon sits on the child intervention panel, struck after the details of Serenity’s death were revealed by the Edmonton Journal.
The four-year-old indigenous girl was in government care when she died in 2014, weighing just 18 pounds and arriving at hospital with severe injuries that included a fractured skull and a body covered in deep bruises, including her anal and genital areas.
Like other opposition members on the panel, Nixon is galled that his attempts to discuss Serenity’s case have been stymied by the government.
There have been no answers around her death, he said, no charges laid, so the notion of accountability bothers him greatly.
“We have seen through the whole panel process that nobody is in charge,” he said Tuesday.
“That’s one of the largest concerns I still have as a panel member, and the minster still has not answered that question – about who we can hold accountable.”
Children’s Services Minister Danielle Larivee (right) met with social work students at the legislature on May 30, 2017, before tabling the Child Protection and Accountability Act. LARRY WONG / POSTMEDIA

Next steps

The changes to the advocate’s role will demand a bump in funding to that office. Larivee and Nixon both said they expect cooperation in pushing through whatever the advocate needs.
Bill 18 is the first in a series of steps to improve the child welfare system.
The act that governs the advocate is also being reviewed, and the panel continues with its broad review of the child welfare system.
Nixon offered tentative support to death review changes, but said it’s the next steps that will make all the difference in helping Albertan kids in care.
“There are so many other pieces that will have to interact with this legislation, and … those are the questions we’re looking at right now,” he said.

Other changes

Transparency: The advocate will be required to report to the legislature every six months on the number and status of reviews.
Timely action: Government departments will have 75 days to respond to advocate recommendations. If a review can’t be completed in a year, the advocate must report the delay.
Investigations: The advocate must check with law enforcement if a review will interfere with a police investigation. If so, police can request a delay, but the advocate must check-in every six months. An information-sharing protocol will also be signed between the government, advocate and law enforcement agencies.
egraney@postmedia.com
Serenity, as a happy toddler riding her trike. SUPPLIED



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Velvet Martin · 
STILL no repercussions for employees who fail to follow Policy; thus, we will continue to revisit the deaths of children in care. 
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Julie Ali · 
Really Velvet--did you expect the NDPCs to do the right thing by the children? It is never the purpose of the politicians to do the right thing.
It's our purpose.
Let's go kick GOA rump.
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Julie Ali · 
Frankly speaking I am curious why the GOA is even bothering to make this proposed law. If there are no penalties for failing to disclose information aren't we at the place we started from where there was no disclosure to the advocate and no one cared? Am I missing something here?

Why is the GOA wasting our time in this way? I mean if the legislation simply begs departments to disclose proactively to the advocate and they don't do this without any problems well it's a waste of time in my mind.
Sure the advocate has to report more but if the GOA simply responds and does nothing as has been the practice all through the PC error than we have stasis continuing.

More pertinently we don't have accountability. No penalties for failing to follow policy, no blame assigned by the advocate and no accountability for the Government Parent. It's a shame that we have such poor governance in a box of this legislation wrapped in the shiny new tinsel-of change to tell us that the gift of this legislation is empty promises.

Mr. Nixon is correct in pointing out the lack of accountability in the system especially with the case of Serenity. Shameful.

http://edmontonjournal.com/.../alberta-government-to...
Like other opposition members on the panel, Nixon is galled that his attempts to discuss Serenity’s case have been stymied by the government.

There have been no answers around her death, he said, no charges laid, so the notion of accountability bothers him greatly.

“We have seen through the whole panel process that nobody is in charge,” he said Tuesday.

“That’s one of the largest concerns I still have as a panel member, and the minster still has not answered that question — about who we can hold accountable.”
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Julie Ali · 
This situation reminds me of the failure of the GOA to hold folks accountable in the continuing care system. As noted by the HQCA -everyone is responsible for residents and no one is responsible. It's a problem of oversight being poor, and penalties being nil.

This is a convenient set up for all concerned with reference to either the children in the child welfare system and the seniors in the continuing care system because when harm, neglect, abuse and fatality occurs --well the entire system is to blame but no one specifically is held accountable. I believe penalties are required. If abuse/fatality occurs in the family situation, parents are charged. Why not in the case with the government Parent? Could it be that government is immune from consequences and being held accountable because this is the way government has set up the system?

http://calgaryherald.com/.../health-watchdog-calls-for...
A new report by the Health Quality Council of Alberta says Alberta Health Services needs to promptly decide who at the provincial health authority is responsible for ensuring nursing homes, supportive living facilities and home care contractors deliver quality treatment to over 120,000 clients.

“Responsibility for monitoring continuing care contracts is held in various AHS departments, resulting in an ‘everybody is responsible” situation,” the report said.

“The risk in this kind of approach is that ‘nobody is responsible’.”
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Velvet Martin · 
The Alberta Government under Tory Leadership hid the deaths of almost 700 babies, children and youth. This 'serial-killer' otherwise known as Child Welfare/Human Services needs to be independently investigated by Public-Police!

https://www.change.org/.../force-rcmp-to-do-a-criminal...
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Peter Cooke · 
Well there's a fabulous idea. Let's all concentrate on making sure everything is done correctly and on time AFTER the CHILD DIE'S. I know our province is in great hands when I hear things like this. BRAVO
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Mike Olesik · 
Your corrupt,theiving pc,s were in power when Serenity died, you moron.
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Peter Cooke · 
Mike Olesik Having a little trouble staying on topic Mike. Here's a news flash; the United States has secretly developed what they are referring to as the Atom Bomb, some sort of nuclear device which is expected to be...
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Julie Ali · 
Mike Olesik And guess what the NDPCs are now in charge. Why are they making it harder to hold the GOA accountable?
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Clara Lynn · 
i wanted to leave facebook bcos of how horrible i am becoming daily wit worry of my sick grandson in care. he needs a heart-transplant so bad but soc serv believe and have done eerything in their power to make him believe we dont love him and want him back bcos of his illness. but if ppl actually keep talking about sticking up for our native children is important than i wont deactivate. maybe therre is hope of seeing my grandchildren again. especially him. when i need him the most. there must be a God if i ever see them all alive again. for real, people. God bless you, who have heart and soul.
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Larry Collins · 
This is great. But she did not do a good job as minister of municipal affairs. The so called modernized municipal government act is an abysmal failure.
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Julie Ali · 

Frankly speaking I am curious why the GOA is even bothering to make this proposed law. If there are no penalties for failing to disclose information aren't we at the place we started from where there was no disclosure to the advocate and no one cared? Am I missing something here?

Why is the GOA wasting our time in this way? I mean if the legislation simply begs departments to disclose proactively to the advocate and they don't do this without any problems well it's a waste of time in my mind.
Sure the advocate has to report more but if the GOA simply responds and does nothing as has been the practice all through the PC error than we have stasis continuing.

More pertinently we don't have accountability. No penalties for failing to follow policy, no blame assigned by the advocate and no accountability for the Government Parent. It's a shame that we have such poor governance in a box of this legislation wrapped in the shiny new tinsel-of change to tell us that the gift of this legislation is empty promises.

Mr. Nixon is correct in pointing out the lack of accountability in the system especially with the case of Serenity. Shameful.

http://edmontonjournal.com/.../alberta-government-to...
Like other opposition members on the panel, Nixon is galled that his attempts to discuss Serenity’s case have been stymied by the government.

There have been no answers around her death, he said, no charges laid, so the notion of accountability bothers him greatly.

“We have seen through the whole panel process that nobody is in charge,” he said Tuesday.

“That’s one of the largest concerns I still have as a panel member, and the minster still has not answered that question — about who we can hold accountable.”
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Velvet Martin · 

STILL no repercussions for employees who fail to follow Policy; thus, we will continue to revisit the deaths of children in care. 
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Julie Ali · 

Really Velvet--did you expect the NDPCs to do the right thing by the children? It is never the purpose of the politicians to do the right thing.
It's our purpose.
Let's go kick GOA rump.
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Julie Ali · 

This situation reminds me of the failure of the GOA to hold folks accountable in the continuing care system. As noted by the HQCA -everyone is responsible for residents and no one is responsible. It's a problem of oversight being poor, and penalties being nil.

This is a convenient set up for all concerned with reference to either the children in the child welfare system and the seniors in the continuing care system because when harm, neglect, abuse and fatality occurs --well the entire system is to blame but no one specifically is held accountable. I believe penalties are required. If abuse/fatality occurs in the family situation, parents are charged. Why not in the case with the government Parent? Could it be that government is immune from consequences and being held accountable because this is the way government has set up the system?

http://calgaryherald.com/.../health-watchdog-calls-for...
A new report by the Health Quality Council of Alberta says Alberta Health Services needs to promptly decide who at the provincial health authority is responsible for ensuring nursing homes, supportive living facilities and home care contractors deliver quality treatment to over 120,000 clients.

“Responsibility for monitoring continuing care contracts is held in various AHS departments, resulting in an ‘everybody is responsible” situation,” the report said.

“The risk in this kind of approach is that ‘nobody is responsible’.”
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Velvet Martin · 

The Alberta Government under Tory Leadership hid the deaths of almost 700 babies, children and youth. This 'serial-killer' otherwise known as Child Welfare/Human Services needs to be independently investigated by Public-Police!

https://www.change.org/.../force-rcmp-to-do-a-criminal...
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Julie Ali · 

This situation reminds me of the failure of the GOA to hold folks accountable in the continuing care system. As noted by the HQCA -everyone is responsible for residents and no one is responsible. It's a problem of oversight being poor, and penalties being nil.

This is a convenient set up for all concerned with reference to either the children in the child welfare system and the seniors in the continuing care system because when harm, neglect, abuse and fatality occurs --well the entire system is to blame but no one specifically is held accountable. I believe penalties are required. If abuse/fatality occurs in the family situation, parents are charged. Why not in the case with the government Parent? Could it be that government is immune from consequences and being held accountable because this is the way government has set up the system?

http://calgaryherald.com/.../health-watchdog-calls-for...
A new report by the Health Quality Council of Alberta says Alberta Health Services needs to promptly decide who at the provincial health authority is responsible for ensuring nursing homes, supportive living facilities and home care contractors deliver quality treatment to over 120,000 clients.

“Responsibility for monitoring continuing care contracts is held in various AHS departments, resulting in an ‘everybody is responsible” situation,” the report said.

“The risk in this kind of approach is that ‘nobody is responsible’.”
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Velvet Martin · 

STILL no repercussions for employees who fail to follow Policy; thus, we will continue to revisit the deaths of children in care. 
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Julie Ali · 

Really Velvet--did you expect the NDPCs to do the right thing by the children? It is never the purpose of the politicians to do the right thing.
It's our purpose.
Let's go kick GOA rump.
LikeReplyJust now
Velvet Martin · 

The Alberta Government under Tory Leadership hid the deaths of almost 700 babies, children and youth. This 'serial-killer' otherwise known as Child Welfare/Human Services needs to be independently investigated by Public-Police!

https://www.change.org/.../force-rcmp-to-do-a-criminal...
LikeReply2 hrs
Peter Cooke · 

Well there's a fabulous idea. Let's all concentrate on making sure everything is done correctly and on time AFTER the CHILD DIE'S. I know our province is in great hands when I hear things like this. BRAVO
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Julie Ali · 

Wonder why everything wasn't being done correctly to begin with and why folks were not sharing information with the advocate?
These changes ensure that the advocate at least gets the information that should have been provided to him but was not being provided for whatever reasons.
Now let us take this change a bit further. The advocate has information and finds multiple workers have failed their duties. Why can't the advocate hold these workers responsible for the harm done?
Why?
I guess because government folks protect each other and what would result in consequences anywhere else do not result in consequences in the public sector. There is no accountability as Mr. Nixon points out:

http://edmontonjournal.com/.../alberta-government-to...
Like other opposition members on the panel, Nixon is galled that his attempts to discuss Serenity’s case have been stymied by the government.

There have been no answers around her death, he said, no charges laid, so the notion of accountability bothers him greatly.

“We have seen through the whole panel process that nobody is in charge,” he said Tuesday.

“That’s one of the largest concerns I still have as a panel member, and the minster still has not answered that question – about who we can hold accountable.”
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Alberta’s child and youth advocate will examine every death of a child in government care, under new legislation tabled Tuesday. The advocate also will have to publicly…
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Julie Ali Did we expect penalties? This is after all the cover your butt GOA we are speaking of.

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