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Some say the views of Wildrose and PC members are just too different — that they don’t belong in the same party. During Ed Stelmach’s time as premier, finding common ground between the views of Ted Morton, who brought a politically right perspective, and Dave Hancock, who was viewed as having progressive or moderate views, was a challenge.---------- Doug McLeod · Victoria, British Columbia The fact is that for all of their problems and hubris, the PCs and certainly not the WR who have never been in power, have caused even a fraction of the utter destruction of the Albertan economy that Notley has. While one can say "give them a chance", before a party is voted in, after the misery and catastrophe the NDP has caused with their Ontario advisors and protestors flown in to run a healthy province right into the ground, one can never say they weren't given a chance and no reasonably intelligent person would allow them to continue their incompetence, lies and corruption. Like · Reply · 6 · Mar 28, 2017 4:42pm · Edited Julie Ali · University of Alberta Doug McLeod I doubt that the NDP are worse than the PCs. The PCs wasted so much cash and blew up hospitals for no good reason. The PCs also did not improve the situation for the most vulnerable citizens in the continuing care system. Decades of reports, paper generation and useless legislation in continuing care are the results of the PCs incompetence. We have health advocates, a mental health advocate, a seniors advocate, a Protection for Persons in Care Office, an ombudsman and other office and not one of them can help families facing retribution in continuing care. The PCs were responsible for the Trespass to Premises legislation without an appeal process that is used by the continuing care industry to separate residents from families by banning advocates. The PCs were surface and no performance. While the NDP are equally bad at least we will vote them out after one term in office. With the PCs we tolerated no transparency, baloney performance and spin for far too long.-----


Tired old PC guard tells us to forgive and forget the wasteful ways of the PCs and join up with them. Fat chance in hell.
I'd rather not.
The PCs were so incompetent that even with boom years they couldn't do their jobs.
Now we have a former PC MLA in the Liepert tell us that there will be unity in the right if the Wildrose take in the failed crew of the PCs.
Again fat chance.
I'm only voting Wildrose if they stay clear of Kenney and crew.


By Ron Liepert There are few Albertans whose involvement in the Alberta Progressive Conservative Party extends beyond 35 years.
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Liepert: A diversity of views won't prevent uniting the right

Published on: March 27, 2017 | Last Updated: March 27, 2017 3:00 AM MDT
Alberta conservatives have spoken, writes MP Ron Liepert, whose connection to the province's Tories spans 37 years. They want reunification.
Alberta conservatives have spoken, writes MP Ron Liepert, whose connection to the province's Tories spans 37 years. They want reunification. JUSTIN TANG / THE CANADIAN PRESS
By Ron Liepert
There are few Albertans whose involvement in the Alberta Progressive Conservative Party extends beyond 35 years. Dave Hancock and Jim Horsman would be two such individuals. I would be another.
Since becoming Peter Lougheed’s press secretary 37 years ago, I have served as MLA for Calgary West, including in the provincial cabinet, and worked on three leadership campaigns. Today, I serve as MP for Calgary Signal Hill, but continue to follow the provincial political scene. While my loyalty to the PC brand runs deep, it is surpassed by what is best for my province.
We’ve heard since Jason Kenney announced his intention to seek the leadership last summer, through to the March 18 vote, why reuniting conservatives won’t work. As one who has been involved in the party most of his adult life, I want to share a perspective for those wondering what to do next.
I’m on record as saying it’s time for conservatives in Alberta to reunite. When Kenney made that his single campaign platform, I committed to support him. Kenney and I have had our differences, but at the end of the day, we are speaking of Alberta’s future. That’s paramount.
As mentioned, I’ve worked on three PC leadership campaigns, ending up on the losing side each time. In 1992, I supported Nancy Betkowski for the leadership. So did Jim Dinning, but we lost to Ralph Klein’s team.
Within hours, there were comments that sound very familiar to those we are hearing today. “Ralph was an outsider and was taking over the party.”
Betkowski left the party and became the Liberal leader. Meanwhile, Klein’s team made sure we had a role, including appointing Dinning provincial treasurer. The rest is history.
Some say the views of Wildrose and PC members are just too different — that they don’t belong in the same party. During Ed Stelmach’s time as premier, finding common ground between the views of Ted Morton, who brought a politically right perspective, and Dave Hancock, who was viewed as having progressive or moderate views, was a challenge.
These vastly divergent views found their way into policies that resulted in Stelmach and his team receiving one of the largest majorities in Alberta history in 2008. So it can work if there is a will to listen.
I use the term reunite conservatives in Alberta because in every caucus mentioned above, had today’s political situation been in place during those times, one half of caucus would be considered Wildrose, and the other half PC.
Similarly today, the views of federal Conservative caucus members are as diverse as any I experienced in Alberta politics. Many of these same people were part of the Conservative caucus that was one of the most successful governments in Canadian history. One of Stephen Harper’s great accomplishments was keeping a broad coalition of diverse views together under one united conservative party.
Finally, political parties need solid financial backing by individual citizens to thrive. Albertans have made it clear with their wallets these past two years. While the PC party was barely able to raise enough money to cover expenses, Jason Kenney raised more money in the last quarter of 2016 than the entire PC party. This may be the most important measure. Alberta conservatives have spoken. They want reunification and see this as the path forward to get rid of the NDP in 2019.
In every campaign, there are winners and non-winners. Winning is always better, but for those grappling with their political future, I have this advice. As a three-time “loser” in leadership battles, I had thoughts of walking away, but I always stayed and fought for my beliefs from the inside.
Working together, conservatives will form government again in two years, so be part of a winning campaign, because I can attest that being in opposition has few rewards.
Ron Liepert is Conservative MP for Calgary Signal Hill.

Julie Ali ·
Whatever Mr. Liepert says doesn't matter beans. I am not going to vote for any Conservative party that joins up with the PCs. After being in the dark for 44 years about the junk that the PCs were responsible for I will never vote for them again. The Wildrose should remember some of this junk and not join up with this less than productive group.

The Tapcal Fund alone should be a warning of the anti-democratic nature of this bunch.
Then the fact that they made the AER immune from lawsuits. Why would they do this?
We have an environmental mess that won't be remediated by big oil. The orphan well program is a mess and the Notley has handed over $30 million of federal cash to pay for the oil industry's liability. There are other costly messes that the PCs were entirely responsible for. All the ABCs (agencies, boards and commissions) appear to be stacked with costly employees who need to be gone.

The PCs were entitled, failed to represent us and won't be back.
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Prague Ivan
Well, the sorry Klein history is well known, unless you are a blind "anything-for-the-party" person. We are still catching up and paying for the disasters that were left behind.
The Lougheed was one of the kind person ( could have been tremendous PM) with exceptional skills/abilities and VISION for the Province that the following mediocrity managed to dismantle.
There is absolutely no reason to get the past-over-the hill conservative crowd into the government! You may remember Social Credit when Lougheed came in (still to young perhaps?) That is the way Conservative party just should go. By the way, I too had the priviledge of knowing Mr. Lougheed personally, and there is nothing remotly close that the current Conservatives can offer--but the "just visiting" new leader. Let it go....
Julie Ali ·
While Mr. Lougheed did know how to keep the voters in line by providing hospitals and schools wasn't this the time the Tapcal Fund got done? Its a sorry business.

The deliverables from the PC error have been poor to non-existent. There's no way I am going to vote for them again.

The Wildrose don't need the PCs to win and in my opinion should avoid a merger.
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Harvey Bishop
As history in Alberta proves, defeated parties don't get another chance. Ever. The Alberta PCs, after Peter Lougheed left office, reduced Alberta's finances to hardly anything, because of their multitudes of very costly scandals and neglect. They are gone for good. Parties with no actual plans, and a record of ineptitude, like the Wildrose, aren't getting anywhere. Why not have a recycled and corrupt, former federal MP try and work things out, by uniting two parties and see what happens. It certainly worked out well the last time. It worked out so well, it was a big failure. Having a new conservative party in Alberta, with a new name is meaningless. It's still a cover up for the massive, unparalleled corruption and incompetence of the Alberta PCs, the Wildrose and Jason Kenney.
Doug McLeod ·
The fact is that for all of their problems and hubris, the PCs and certainly not the WR who have never been in power, have caused even a fraction of the utter destruction of the Albertan economy that Notley has. While one can say "give them a chance", before a party is voted in, after the misery and catastrophe the NDP has caused with their Ontario advisors and protestors flown in to run a healthy province right into the ground, one can never say they weren't given a chance and no reasonably intelligent person would allow them to continue their incompetence, lies and corruption.
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Julie Ali ·
Doug McLeod I doubt that the NDP are worse than the PCs. The PCs wasted so much cash and blew up hospitals for no good reason. The PCs also did not improve the situation for the most vulnerable citizens in the continuing care system.

Decades of reports, paper generation and useless legislation in continuing care are the results of the PCs incompetence. We have health advocates, a mental health advocate, a seniors advocate, a Protection for Persons in Care Office, an ombudsman and other office and not one of them can help families facing retribution in continuing care. The PCs were responsible for the Trespass to Premises legislation without an appeal process that is used by the continuing care industry to separate residents from families by banning advocates.

The PCs were surface and no performance. While the NDP are equally bad at least we will vote them out after one term in office. With the PCs we tolerated no transparency, baloney performance and spin for far too long.
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Ed Henderson ·
Every time I read an editorial written by politicians or listen to politicians on the media I have the same question crop up in my mind. The question is...

"'Is it in our interest to continually elect and re-elect people who are professional politicians?""

I have never been able to convince myself that it is.

Mr Lieperts essay above is a promotion of a political party and what is good for that political party. That is the sole focus of his article. No mention anywhere about what is best for Alberta or Canada.
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Doug McLeod ·
In fact if you read it, there is: "When Kenney made that his single campaign platform, I committed to support him. Kenney and I have had our differences, but at the end of the day, we are speaking of Alberta’s future. That’s paramount."
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Evelyn Wendell ·
Ed, the way I look at the issue is that if I was going to have surgery I would want a well trained professsional surgeon to do the surgery. If I was doing my taxes i would want a professional educated person doing my taxes not a lay person who does not understand the tax code. If I was operating a business I obviously want someone qualified for the job who has the credentials to run the company to make it profitable not someone would would give away the goods. The point I am making is "Yes" I want a "Professional Politian" who has studied politics, world affairs, trade issues and a whole host of other things as well to run the biggest business there is; our Government. The US just tried hiring a "Lay man" to govern the country and whether you like Trump or not it is obvious he has no clue how to run the country; he has his whole family there to help him understand the issues which he should have been well informed on before he took office.
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Wendy Bryce ·
I think Jason Kenney is a big drawing card, and he has raised a lot of money. I think, though, that there are a lot of Albertans who still have memories of 40 years of Conservative government; and the greed and entitlement that earmarked that reign. Who can forget the prepackaged food scandal in senior's homes in 2012; and Alison Redford's entitled ideas. I personally would like to see the right united under a new name.
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Harvey Bishop
Wendy Bryce The Alberta PCs, (aka "the right"), after Peter Lougheed left office, were so corrupt, it's beyond comprehension how they were able to get away with what they did for so long. Any so called "right winged" party in Alberta that comes up would only repeat that corruption.
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Steve Simonds ·
Redfraud was just a bit player in the overall wasted money awards. Much bigger fish to fry than focusing on that, and whatever she did was her own idea rather than a party focus anyway.
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Evelyn Wendell ·
Harvey Bishop You are absolutely incorrect and i think you are a liberal troll!
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Julie Ali ·
I agree with you. No way am I voting for the PCs under Mr. Kenney.
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Jim Rieder ·
are you right or "more right" either way we are on the same side of the spectrum and should be able to overcome the degrees of difference in order to unite the right and win an election.
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Ernie Isley ·
Well said Ron.j
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Kenneth Bainey ·
What is Alberta future? PC Party reunification or economy diversification ? or both? The sounds impressive, politically attractive scenarios with illusions of efficiencies will continue if ego, status and politics continue to prevail. The next generation Albertans are smarter with social media technologies-so the message and the medium must be different to stimulate and excite these next generation Albertans. Think about the next paradigm of Social, Economic, Political, Technological, Environmental and Legislative -thinking and value system.
Evelyn Wendell ·
every pendulum always swings back to the center. I think every polical party has to have and stay with a basic platform of how they would run the province; Yes they need to make social changes as society changes but at their core they need to stand for what they believe and it is up to the citizens to pick the party that matches their values, ideas and beliefs. It is the management of our province and it should be about the most quaified not the most stimulating and exciting; I don't see things going to well in the US after the stimulating and exciting Trump!!!
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Chanan Mattison ·
I watched Jason in committee in Ottawa; he is remarkably talented, he showed - in both languages. He had so many facts in his head he could have written a white paper for each committee he served on. I think he's therefore the best man to lead Alberta, if he DOESN'T call us Liberals - we're Conservatives by principle, going as far back as William Pitt and taking in Winston Churchill & Peter Lougheed to boot!!
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Julie Ali ·
I don't think Mr. Kenney is the best person to lead Alberta. Mr. Jean is the best person.
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Peter Breedveld
Great editorial Ron!
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Michael Conroy ·
An excellent and rational perspective. Ron Liepert demonstrates by example the benefits of subordinating your ego and the past to your values and commitment to service. This type of progressive thinking will marshall conservatives of all stripes to ensure this current government meets its rightful demise.
LikeReply2Mar 27, 2017 7:47pm
Harvey Bishop
Michael Conroy The Alberta PCs, after Peter Lougheed left office, were extremely corrupt disasters and virtually depleted Alberta's finances from multitudes of very costly scandals and neglect. They are finished. The Wildrose is has only proven to be clueless and inept political cousins of the Alberta PCs. As for Jason Kenney, he is another recycled, corrupt ex federal politician, who only wants power, and nothing more. These are who needs to be kept from power. They are devoid of anything logical or practical. The Alberta PCs, the Wildrose and anything led by Jason Kenney is only committed to their egos. Ron Leipert was working for Peter Lougheed. He seems to have strayed from Peter's principles, as an Alberta PC MLA, and jumped ship to avoid any responsibility. Another recycled politician after a gravy train and political perks.
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Michael Conroy ·
Harvey Bishop And recurring $10.8B deficits are your defintion of success?? We'll see in the next election as the polls clearly indcate that Albertans (or at least those outside the public sector bastion of Edmonton) clearly understand the dire consequences of the last election.
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Evelyn Wendell ·
Harvey Bishop I see you are showing your liberal or NDP support again...Do you really think that your continual and repetitive comments about the PC and Wild Rose parties are going to seriously turn any true conservative away from unification and the eventual defeat of the NDP; if anything it make this conservative more determind to "get on the bus". You don't win people over by trying to make them look stupid!
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Tom McCabe
Ron, thank you for this I have been struggling ever since you he melt down last election. I too don't agree with everything Jason says and I worry about the extreme right views from some in the Wild Rose but you have succinctly put it in perspective for me. Thanks Ron hope all is well.
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Just because Liepert thinks we should vote for the old guard doesn't mean we will do it. These folks are all so old school and we've moved on to the future which includes the Wildrose but not the PCs.
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