Friday, March 24, 2017

Tim Cameron · Lakeland (Limited) The message still hasn't gotten out that for every 3.5 people on the frontline for AHS, there is 1 management position. Thats where the expense is, plus their huge defined benefits pension plan.-------Julie Ali · University of Alberta Not only do we have too many managers there are also too many highly paid executive staff that do not provide us with deliverables. I doubt the NDP will do any pruning as they have added to the problem with the use of a puppet AHS board. Troubling to see that there is no recognition of the burden these executive salaries place on the public bank. Families are suffering from economic and job insecurity while the top dogs at the ABCs (agencies, boards and commissions) get perks and rewards out of the realm of ordinary citizens. This sort of entitlement compensation is a legacy project of the PCs and needs to end.----

While is it a first step to decreasing the executive salaries on steroids, just asking for a plan is not actually cutting these salaries is it?
So when will the NDP cut the salaries of the executive staff?
My feeling is that there will be no cuts.
We will have continuation of the PC entitlement pay for the ABCs. In the case of AHS the board will be blamed for the high pay for no deliverables that I can determine. Then there will be chatter by the health minister to show her displeasure.
This will go on until the end of the term in office.
We will hire the Wildrose. Klein style cuts to position and pay will be made.
And bending of the curve that Ms. Hoffman tempts us with will be reality.
So basically all of this is just spin. #GOASPIN#AHSSPIN
But it is good to see the NDP folks actually reflecting on issues that have the taxpayers steamed about.
It's a slow bit of progress.
It won't be enough to save them in the next election.

Health Minister Sarah Hoffman says the NDP government intends to keep a closer eye on compensation for senior executives at Alberta Health Services, though it…
CALGARYHERALD.COM

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 Exactly. Wildrose will cut funds so that Healthcare will get worse. They're a big money party like the PCs. They reward the rich at the expense of the poor.
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Julie Ali They will also cut the major waste on money on executive staff.
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 Oh will they? I'm sure they say that but don't think any sane person expects them to do so. Believe me, there'll be cuts but the patients will be the first to feel them as always.
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Julie Ali Cuts will happen no matter what. We can't pay for all this stuff and we need cuts. But of course no one thinks of this but its all about spending. Ms. Notley gives $30 million dollars to "stimulate" the economy by bailing out big oil in the orphan well program while seniors sit in poop filled diapers. So what is the difference between the PCs, the NDPCs and the Wildrose? The Cons don't pretend and the NDPCs do.
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Marguerite Redshaw WHAT EYE ??? 
I would be overjoyed 😁 if you spent a day in Long Term Care with both eyes 👀 open and supported our seniors along with their Slave workers ...
Many Albertans would be grateful 👍
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Julie Ali Most folks have no idea of the situation in continuing care and don't care.
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http://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/hoffman-says-the-ndp-will-keep-a-close-eye-on-alberta-health-services-from-now-on

Health minister to monitor top AHS salaries as it cuts health care costs

Published on: March 24, 2017 | Last Updated: March 24, 2017 6:21 AM MDT
Deputy Premier Sarah Hoffman speaks to the media about the government’s latest release of salary details at the Alberta Legislature, in Edmonton Alta. on Thursday June 30, 2016. Photo by David Bloom
Deputy Premier Sarah Hoffman speaks to the media about the government’s latest release of salary details at the Alberta Legislature, in Edmonton Alta. on Thursday June 30, 2016. Photo by David Bloom
Health Minister Sarah Hoffman says the NDP government intends to keep a closer eye on compensation for senior executives at Alberta Health Services, though it doesn’t see their salaries as out of line.
The Health ministry’s 2017-20 business plan released with the provincial budget last week commits to improving governance within the health care system.
In an interview Thursday, Hoffman pointed to a new focus on executive salaries as part of that initiative.
As part of the NDP’s review of remuneration at agencies, boards and commissions released in February, the government is requiring AHS to submit an annual executive compensation plan to the province later this spring.
AHS president and CEO Verna Yiu made $568,321 in 2015, a period in which she was mostly a vice-president within the organization.
“Certainly the CEO’s compensation is high. I don’t believe it’s out of line with the level of responsibility,” said Hoffman.
“But that’s something I want the AHS board to ensure and look not just at the CEO but at other executives in the organization … I want to make sure they are doing a thorough analysis with other high-ranking officials within the organization.”
Hoffman noted the ABC review had a difficult task when it looked at AHS because there is no similar overarching health authority within Canada. She said Yiu is paid less than some CEOs of single Canadian hospitals.
The government is also asking Calgary Lab Services, Covenant Health, CapitalCare and Carewest to voluntarily submit compensation plans, though they are not legally required to do so.
The NDP has committed to “bending the curve” on health care spending, the largest single part of the provincial budget, by bringing the rate of increase to two per cent by 2018. In last week’s budget however the government missed its 2.5 per cent growth target for 2017-18, with spending projected to increase by five per cent compared to last year’s budget and 3.3 per cent over what was actually spent in 2016-17.
The health business plan for the first time contains per-capita health expenditure figures, which show an increase from $4,588 in 2012 to an estimated $4,793 in 2016. Hoffman said the government intends to introduce new performance measures, including targets for per capita spending, in the coming years.
As part of its plan to cut health-care costs, the government has struck a new compensation deal with physicians and is attempting to shift dollars from acute care to home and community care.
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Marilyn Rich
One good thing 2019 is coming and we will cut Sarah Hoffmans wage......right out of a job......lol. She is so out of touch with proritizing and reality.
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Julie Ali ·
I have to agree with you. Sarah Hoffman has not been productive as health minister.
Her responses to ongoing issues in the continuing care system have been less than satisfactory.
For example when families face retribution in the form of removal of visitation (banning) her response has been an internal to AHS appeal process and a banning policy. I fail to see how regulating the banning victiims solves the problem of private continuing care businesses using the Trespass to Premises legislation to remove advocates from their facilities.  A far more useful response would be to amend the Trespass to Premises legislation to allow for an independent appeal process as well as require that all residents have residential tenancy rights.

Not only has the minister failed to help victims of retribution there has been no improvements in the continuing care system that I am aware of. But certainly there is a lot of talk. Deliverables are not present.
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Tim Cameron ·
The message still hasn't gotten out that for every 3.5 people on the frontline for AHS, there is 1 management position. Thats where the expense is, plus their huge defined benefits pension plan.
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Julie Ali ·
Not only do we have too many managers there are also too many highly paid executive staff that do not provide us with deliverables. I doubt the NDP will do any pruning as they have added to the problem with the use of a puppet AHS board.

Troubling to see that there is no recognition of the burden these executive salaries place on the public bank. Families are suffering from economic and job insecurity while the top dogs at the ABCs (agencies, boards and commissions) get perks and rewards out of the realm of ordinary citizens. This sort of entitlement compensation is a legacy project of the PCs and needs to end.
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Matt Wilson
Most doctors in Alberta make over $1M/year. Why shouldn't the executives be properly paid. They are running a $20B organization with over 100,000 employees. Executives would be paid millions to lead a private sector organization of this size. Don't expect healthcare to be run properly and efficiently in Alberta until we start paying administrators properly. Why would any qualified CEO what to run AHS when that can make more money being the CEO of a single hospital in Ontario? That's why we have unqualified healthcare leaders in Alberta.
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Reg Parker ·
Doctors are making $1 million a year. But then they have a lot of expenses. Something you probably don't know about. It's the take home pay that counts. Again, something you probably don't know about.
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Dave Fryett
Every once in a while you see some comment that is just so ignorant you have to reply. No, the average doctor does not make over 1 million dollars a year. Some highly trained specialists might make a salary close to that amount, but it is nowhere close to the average. The largest group of physicians are general practioners or family doctors which typically make less than specialists. There is a Globe and Mail Article in 2013 that looked into this issue and found the average doctor in Canada made $225,000 per year, a small fraction of your ridiculous over a million dollar a year claim. One also must make the distinction between physician billings and earnings. Some doctors may bill health care for much larger amounts but have to pay expenses including offices and staff out of that money. Overheads vary widely, hospital based doctors in ER might have next to no overheads, a specialist running a clinic might pay well over 50% of billings. A million dollars a year is way off base.
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Brian Olafson
So, Docs are making a mill a year. But do you know what their net earnings are?
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Atreyu Keats ·
Matt just got schooled hard.
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Julie Ali ·
The money is not being wasted on our doctors. I've had deliverables from doctors like Dr. Levinsky and Dr. Lappa who provided excellent returns on my investment in cash in them.

Nope.The doctors aren't for the most part where the problems are. Look to the GOA and health authorities for the major waste of public dollars.

Covenant Health's CEO is making major bucks and please tell me why we need a second health authority in Alberta? The duplication of the bureaucracy with two health authorities, the costs of executive staff indicate a way to save cash. We should have just AHS as the health authority in Alberta.

Highly paid elite staff at Alberta Health need to show us the deliverables. What do we get for their salaries? It's troubling that these bureaucrats get major returns for no results that I can determine.
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Doris Lund ·
They cut funding to things like care for the people who have wounds that need constant care because they won't heal or for the elderly who need home care services. They should be assamed of themselfs . This health care minister has ne idea of what it means to need care and can't get it. Some day--------.
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Karl Marten ·
The government did not cut front line services (at least not this NDP government - the formet government did). They are trying to cut the salaries of the top-level bureaucrats, who make more in a day than the fron-line workers make in a month (if not a year). It is the top-level bureaucrats that decide where to cut, and they cut the front line workers in order to save their own salaries.
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Julie Ali ·
Karl Marten I wiill believe that the NDP government is doing the cuts when we see the cuts.
Cuts need to be made with reference to folks on the sunshine list.
We're not the bank for the elite--we need more front line workers not the top dogs.
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Nancy Reynolds-Swan ·
And to think they cut the budget for frontliners, ambulance, and they think their salaries are in line!!! Youve got to be kidding me. So lets the people decide to cut your wage to the middle class that includes all executives in unions and give the wages where they actually should go. She is such a moron!!!!!
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Atreyu Keats ·
Hey Nancy - where are your credientials to speak so specific to this issue? How much do you actually know about the budgets and factors in play in everything you just outlined above. Jeeze Louise.
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Julie Ali ·
Atreyu Keats She has cut the ambulance services. This is a regressive move.
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Darlene Brownlee ·
Their salary may not be out to lunch BUT are they doing the job. Obviously not looking at we pay for our health care and the LONG wait times for everything.
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Rocky Potuer ·
As I've said many, many times, executives at AHS are over paid and have no concern for tax payers dollars! Salaries are one thing, remember the million dollar roaming charge bill from 2014! There is a huge savings in cutting the waste at AHS, and that's what Wildrose intends to do! They won't cut front line sevrices, they will find the waste, dead weight, entitlement beleiving systems and employees and eliminate them. Then maybe more people in AHS will work with some organization and desire to get things done! Waiting months for an MRI, being told "my schedule doesn't go out more than 2 weeks' when making appointments, and then being told a week later that the schedule still doesn't go out two weeks is just ridiculous. People in all tax payer funded jobs, need to get organized and stop collecting a pay check for low effort. You don't get away with it in private business, why do we allow it in our tax payer funded jobs? This includes "every" employee of the Alberta tax payer!!
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Cam Gall ·
Wow, paragraphs like this remind me why I don't support WR. I guess everyone in public service is just lazy and unorganized. Keep on truckin Rocky
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Carol Potiuk ·
Cam Gall Wild Rose would be an H of a lot better than this totally inept government we have in Alberta now! they are completely in over their heads.
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Julie Ali ·
I agree with you. It maybe that Wildrose will need to privatize most of AHS to get results.
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Julie Ali ·
Cam Gall Some folks in public service aren't producing and we don't want to pay for chatter. We want results. If you are working in the private sector you have to produce. Why not in the public sector?
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Allen Reed
The way AHS has been administered so far I would suggest you could get a better result with a less costly administration. There are, very likely, dozens of capable administrators that would do a better job for half the salary that is being paid now.
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Sherrill Wiseman
what about salaries of the actual health care workers? hear they are being cut way back? why aren't they being accorded the same respect via their salaries? Their responsibility, ie people's lives, is way way above that of the suits?
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Praveen Kumar ·
Thank you
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Julie Ali ·
The executive staff don't care about front line workers. The front line workers have to do more while the executive staff are there for advertisements, spin and sales. It's clear to me that executive staff -especially the CEOs and their cohort --are overpaid for what they do. What they actually do I am not clear about other than provide the face for the agency or the government department.
If you are merely the talking head, should your salary not be lower than it currently is?
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Donna Lindsay ·
Works at Happily Retired
i have no idea why all managers get a bonus for comeing under budget. the workers and patchents are suffering because of this. it needs to stop.
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Ken Clawson ·
Two years in and now we are going to keep an eye on it. She" wants the AHS board to ensure and look not just at the CEO but at other executives in the organization … I want to make sure they are doing a thorough analysis with other high-ranking officials within the organization" So trough feeders will monitor trough feeders. Am I reading this right?
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Julie Ali ·
Ms. Hoffman is not responsible for the AHS folks. They do their own thing. The government has designed it this way so that they aren't blamed for the messes in the society or the health authority.
For example someone is evicted from the continuing care facility. AHS has meetings to decide on what to say to both the government and the media about the eviction and how to explain preferential placement of the evicted resident.
It's very neat. Government leaves the health authority to do what it wants to do and the AHS board is basically there to get the complaints. Alberta Health is just there to do legislation and apparently the minister is not to do any sort of direct meddling. What this means is AHS will continue to pay executive staff major bucks. And the AHS board will be blamed for these salaries. Meanwhile Ms. Hoffman will continue to speak about monitoring and bending the curve of reality.
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Kevin Webster ·
Ok.... I'm pretty sure I can see why our government has a spending problem.. The minister feels the salary is in line with the level of responsibility... nowhere does it say it compares with what the BC government or any other provincial government would pay for the same responsibility... and then she`s asking the board to look at executive pay yet no clear cut direction... the conservatives did the same thing several years ago .. I guess if she asks them nicely she might get a different result. Seriously, our per capita spending is out of line and the only way to fix it is to look and compare every single line on the province`s expenditure sheet to find out where we are out of line with other provinces. You cannot correct a problem if you don`t know the exact location of where it is. Just saying we spend too much on health care won`t cut it.. we should be able to determine down to the most minute detail like if we spend a lot more on floor polish or surgical tape than other provinces.
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