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Alberta Medical Association Hi Julie, We've sent you a private message. Thank you for your interest in albertapatients. Like · Reply · 2 hrs Julie Ali Julie Ali Alberta Medical Association Thank you for the private message. But the medical folks already know about DNR and it's flexibility. Perhaps the families need to know about these poor practices and we pull the AMA forwards with reference to the rights of the handicapped citizen in Alberta?

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Julie Ali There are many problems in the system that need action by the Alberta Medical Association. One of them is the matter of DNR orders. Do not resuscitate orders placed on mentally ill patients who are not able to make health care decisions is not appropriate and yet this is what happened in the case of my handicapped sister. How does putting a DNR on a handicapped citizen with carbon dioxide narcosis be justifiable? It is clear to me that this is not informed consent and the doctors involved would have known this. But instead of doing the appropriate thing which was to obey the requirements of the personal directive that asked for full resuscitation these doctors repeatedly put DNR on my sister file. What is the AMA doing about DNR orders for patients without insight? If there are legal and ethical reasons to refuse death by doctor to folks without insight then how is it even possible for doctors to go the DNR route for these same patients. The AMA needs to educate doctors because this is not only an ethical problem for doctors but also a legal problem. They will be facing lawsuits because the families of such patients will not be waiting for doctors to realize their ethical and legal quagmires, we will be going to the court system for remedy.
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Julie Ali Alberta Medical Association Thank you for the private message. But the medical folks already know about DNR and it's flexibility. Perhaps the families need to know about these poor practices and we pull the AMA forwards with reference to the rights of the handicapped citizen in Alberta?
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Time for the AMA to educate its members about the rights of the disabled in our society.
You just don't get together like a clan and unilaterally impose a DNR on a victim without insight. I mean for goodness sake. If you have sky high carbon dioxide levels even a person off the street knows you cannot give informed consent. Yet doctors at the Grey Nuns Hospital in 2010 simply got together and indicate ICU consulted, psych consulted and she is competent to go against the PD requirement for full resuscitation with CO2 levels that make reasoning impossible What the heck is wrong with doctors?
Then when their buddies at the UAH yap to them later in 2014 when an ethicist finds this withdrawal of services troubling, they say, but we were only respecting her wishes.
Not only do they do this sort of junk but they phone the facility in 2010 to tell the facility that the family is in full agreement with the DNR junk. Can you believe the stuff you find out when you read a medical file? It is eye popping.
 Even when they do an intubation it is like they are forced to do it as in the GNH visit of 2013 where they dumped her out of ICU as soon as they could. The utter disrespect towards my sister is amazing and it was my dad who went around like a beggar from doctor to doctor asking for help when all that was required here was someone--anyone --saying hey--maybe let us try out a compliance program.
The compliance program is now in place. Amazing isn't it? It's doable. So why was it not in place from 2010 to 2014?
I would say that this a problem of the government of Alberta. if AADL requires compliance in order to get the use of equipment and oxygen why not the long term care facilities?
What is the purpose of government? Is it to help the most vulnerable or is it to simply sit on its ass?
I guess it is all about a bunch of expensive hires yapping day and night on our pay while we wait for help.
Sickening.

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