Tuesday, January 3, 2017

-Federal Health Minister Jane Philpott says Ottawa wants to transform the system because health-care outcomes in Canada are average compared to similar countries – even though Canadians pay some of the highest per-capita costs in the world.----------Julie Ali · University of Alberta I support the federal government in limiting the amount of cash given to the GOA. Why would we have our tax dollars wasted when the GOA is fully capable of reducing costs? The GOA could for example eliminate Covenant Health. They could even eliminate AHS. There is no need to have downstream health authorities that have incredible costs for bureaucrats and executive staff. Alberta Health staff could take direct control over health care services delivery. If Alberta Health did this we would be able to hold it accountable for the waste in the system. Why for example are we spending so much money on imaging services? What are the costs of laboratory testing? Why do we pay for the top tier executives like CEOs of private industries? It's ridiculous. Not only can the health authorities be dispensed with but we could also decrease salaries, benefits, expenses for all our health care workers. I see no reason why we can't do this. It is not popular but when there is a major deficit we either reduce salaries or we lay off workers. I don't believe the NDP folks we hired will do anything. We will have to wait until the next election to get sustainable health care services provision. It's not right that we have so much money going to P3 projects like the continuing care facilities when we could be doing this work ourselves in the public sector and own the properties as well. We are giving money away to the private sector for poor service delivery just because the GOA can't do the job of efficient, cost effective health care and continuing care delivery. The federal government is asking for accountability and deliverables for the public dollars. Since we do not get such accountability from the GOA, maybe the federal government can get what we can't get. I also support the directed money towards mental health services. It's appalling how long families who have mentally ill familly members have been scraping by. It's almost impossible to get help for family members unless you go public. The most recent case of GOA failure to provide accessible mental health services is the case of the mother who killed her daughter. http://www.cbc.ca/.../edmonton-mother-accused-of-killing... Bourque said she thinks Rachael Longridge's death wouldn't have happened if the health care system had resources and services in place for the family. "It could have been prevented and it wasn't." ******** This was a preventable death. Why did it happen? The mental health system is in shambles, psychiatrists are impossible to access and children with mental health issues are in crisis. Families who take their family members in crisis to places like the Grey Nuns Hospital have in the past had to simply abandon them in the emergency because there was no bed available. I've been told by some doctors to talk to the GOA to get the help for family members. What the heck? Why should citizens have to yap to the GOA for the family member to get help? It's a fail, fail, fail. What is required is for the Alberta Health minister to do her job. It's time for her to get the health agreement signed and for the mental health money to be received so that families don't end up with dead family members as in the case of this poor girl. http://globalnews.ca/.../edmonton-mother-accused-of.../ “Her relationship with her mother was very complex. She loved her mother. Her mother loved her,” Rachael’s friend Danielle Bourque said. “I met her on multiple occasions and stayed over for dinner. Her mother really struggled with the passing of her father, with mental illness.” Friend Dakota Bergem said Rachael had a close relationship with her mother. “She was pretty close to her mom. It was after her dad passed away. Her brother and her mom were pretty close,” she said. Danielle Bourque said supporting her mother took a toll on Rachael. “The tragedy in this, I find, is the lack of support from the health system because Rachael had been struggling for a really long time with supporting her mother,” she said. Like · Reply ·

http://globalnews.ca/news/3158366/provinces-push-justin-trudeau-for-face-to-face-sitdown-on-health-care/?sf49314128=1

January 3, 2017 3:15 pm
Updated: January 3, 2017 3:16 pm

Provinces push Justin Trudeau for face to face sitdown on health care

By Andy Blatchford The Canadian Press
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks after meeting with indigenous leaders on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on December 15, 2016.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks after meeting with indigenous leaders on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on December 15, 2016.
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OTTAWA – The federal government’s push to close bilateral health-funding deals with individual provinces and territories appears to be losing momentum.
After talks to establish a national funding framework fell apart last month, the feds reached side deals with New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador.
But health and finance ministers from the 10 other provinces and territories are now repeating their call on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to meet face to face with the premiers to resume those discussions.
In a letter to their federal counterparts, they say they rejected Ottawa’s latest offer – increasing health transfers by 3.5 per cent per year and $11.5 billion in targeted funding over 10 years – because it simply wasn’t enough.
WATCH: Health care talks between the government and the provinces break down
A Trudeau spokeswoman says there are no immediate plans for a first ministers meeting on health.
The feds have argued that they put forward a “historic” offer that was the best they could do within the confines of their own narrow fiscal framework.
Federal Health Minister Jane Philpott says Ottawa wants to transform the system because health-care outcomes in Canada are average compared to similar countries – even though Canadians pay some of the highest per-capita costs in the world.
The federal efforts to reach bilateral deals appeared to drive a wedge between provinces and territories.
After the federal-provincial talks collapsed in Ottawa, the provinces seemed united in their opposition to the federal proposal. However, three provinces broke ranks and inked their own deals with the feds.
Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard has called the federal government’s divide-and-conquer approach on health care “deplorable.”
In the letter released Tuesday, the provinces also repeated their request for what they described as an evidence-based annual increase in federal health transfers of 5.2 per cent.
“Canadians expect and deserve their governments to provide long-term sustainable support so that public health care is strong today and for future generations,” reads the letter.
“The new federal government was elected, in part, on a mandate to engage in a constructive dialogue with provinces and territories to secure the future of health care.”



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Julie Ali ·
I support the federal government in limiting the amount of cash given to the GOA. Why would we have our tax dollars wasted when the GOA is fully capable of reducing costs? The GOA could for example eliminate Covenant Health. They could even eliminate AHS. There is no need to have downstream health authorities that have incredible costs for bureaucrats and executive staff. Alberta Health staff could take direct control over health care services delivery.

If Alberta Health did this we would be able to hold it accountable for the waste in the system. Why for example are we spending so much money on imaging services? What are the costs of laboratory testing? Why do we pay for the top tier executives like CEOs of private industries? It's ridiculous.

Not only can the health authorities be dispensed with but we could also decrease salaries, benefits, expenses for all our health care workers. I see no reason why we can't do this.
It is not popular but when there is a major deficit we either reduce salaries or we lay off workers.

I don't believe the NDP folks we hired will do anything. We will have to wait until the next election to get sustainable health care services provision. It's not right that we have so much money going to P3 projects like the continuing care facilities when we could be doing this work ourselves in the public sector and own the properties as well. We are giving money away to the private sector for poor service delivery just because the GOA can't do the job of efficient, cost effective health care and continuing care delivery.

The federal government is asking for accountability and deliverables for the public dollars. Since we do not get such accountability from the GOA, maybe the federal government can get what we can't get.

I also support the directed money towards mental health services. It's appalling how long families who have mentally ill familly members have been scraping by. It's almost impossible to get help for family members unless you go public. The most recent case of GOA failure to provide accessible mental health services is the case of the mother who killed her daughter.
http://www.cbc.ca/.../edmonton-mother-accused-of-killing...
Bourque said she thinks Rachael Longridge's death wouldn't have happened if the health care system had resources and services in place for the family.

"It could have been prevented and it wasn't."
********

This was a preventable death. Why did it happen? The mental health system is in shambles, psychiatrists are impossible to access and children with mental health issues are in crisis. Families who take their family members in crisis to places like the Grey Nuns Hospital have in the past had to simply abandon them in the emergency because there was no bed available. I've been told by some doctors to talk to the GOA to get the help for family members. What the heck? Why should citizens have to yap to the GOA for the family member to get help? It's a fail, fail, fail.

What is required is for the Alberta Health minister to do her job. It's time for her to get the health agreement signed and for the mental health money to be received so that families don't end up with dead family members as in the case of this poor girl.

http://globalnews.ca/.../edmonton-mother-accused-of.../

“Her relationship with her mother was very complex. She loved her mother. Her mother loved her,” Rachael’s friend Danielle Bourque said.

“I met her on multiple occasions and stayed over for dinner. Her mother really struggled with the passing of her father, with mental illness.”

Friend Dakota Bergem said Rachael had a close relationship with her mother.

“She was pretty close to her mom. It was after her dad passed away. Her brother and her mom were pretty close,” she said.

Danielle Bourque said supporting her mother took a toll on Rachael.

“The tragedy in this, I find, is the lack of support from the health system because Rachael had been struggling for a really long time with supporting her mother,” she said.
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Ken Clements ·
Why is it that every file that the Trudeau government works on ends up this way? I thought that the Liberals were going to do business better and different. At least that's what they told us before the election and I know they wouldn't lie.....
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Julie Ali ·
They are doing business better. They are asking for the health ministers to do their jobs. They are asking them to use the public dollars more efficiently. I agree with the federal government. The GOA is way too fat and if they won't slim down I guess the next political party we hire will put the health care sector on a diet.
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Chris Reeve ·
Works at Homemaker/Mom
Negotiating entails compromise. Neither side appears to understand this concept. Managers within the local health Authorities make stupendously high salaries. They aren't unionized.
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Julie Ali ·
Not just the managers make high salaries for no deliverables. We have to pay for the executive staff at AHS and Covenant Health not to mention all the administrators of all these hospitals who are getting paid big bucks. All of this top tier need to be downsized ASAP in terms of numbers, compensation and we need to see the deliverables. If there is poor performance they should be let go.
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Richard Cox ·
Trudeau is completely oblivious on finances. He hasn't got a clue on how to run a business, let alone a country. He is an absolute moron, just like Pierre. It would be like trying to describe the difference between a major scale and a minor scale to a deaf person. Easier to teach a monkey to bowl.
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Laurie Weston ·
Works at Retired
Health care costs have esclated at an usustainable rate. A 6% annual increase will see the transfer double every 8 or 9 years. Provinces have been poor negoiators with workers in the health field such that hospital janitors, clerks, cleaners, drivers, and other support staff receive wages, pensions and benefits that greatly exceed what comparable workers would receive outside the governement payroll. Politicians have allowed civil service unions to hijack the public purse and now are pusing doctors and other real health care providers around. Most budget problems for municipal and provincial politicians can be traced to bureaucry and caving to public service union negotiations.
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Julie Ali ·
I agree with you about the unsustainability of health care costs. There are many ways to decrease these costs. We could for example just have one health authority instead of two. We could amalgamate two bureaucracies into one. We could prune managers. We could decrease executive salaries, expenses, benefits. We get poor returns for expenditure of a great deal of cash. In addition while everyone is getting taken care of, families have to wait for health care services such as mental health supports and services. The recent case of the mother who killed her daughter is an indication of the crisis state of mental health in Alberta.
Mental health service delivery is deplorable and our most vulnerable citizens are not getting the complex care plans and help they need. What will change this? A great many citizens kicking GOA rump in the next election.
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Thomas Conway ·
They had the sit down. If you want the money, negotiate a deal like a couple provicnes already have. If you don't want it, fine. Jesus, it's a break-out of whiners.
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